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#11

What we used to do was check the IP against a variety of things beyond the internal tool that lets you look for multi's, for example doing a blacklist check, checking the geolocation of the IP against any details of IRL location they've provided, running the IP against a list of known trouble makers in NS - pornspammers, GCR coupers, trolls, etc. I also checked the history of the nation they've provided using NSHistory and, where they've provided a history of past regions, spent some time looking over it and those forums, searching for any history of forum bans, bad behavior, etc. Where I found details of past aliases or other nations I tended to run similar history checks on those nations as well. Generally speaking I was looking for any inconsistencies between the information they provided and what I was able to find out.

Different admins ran checks in different ways, using different tools and of differing thoroughness. I was probably the most rigorous. But using the inbuilt IP tool alone is not very rigorous at all.
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#12

When I was doing cit apps, I was using both the blacklist check Bels had provided me (which is the same as the one he linked to), and the IP check against the known troublemakers. I didnt get into the NSHistory and the like, but even the "little" I did took about 15 minutes per application...
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#13

Thanks for the Blacklist link, Bel.

Hile had linked me to whois lookup which is what I was using to check for proxies\etc.
I'll work with both.

In terms of IP check against known troublemakers, is that via Blacklist or something else?

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#14

Ok, so I went back and re-checked all citizens who signed up on these forums under Blacklist.

The thing I've noticed is that these come up red for several people who've signed up:
dnsbl.sorbs.net
dul.dnsbl.sorbs.net
l2.apews.org
pbl.spamhaus.org
zen.spamhaus.org

If then randomly checked out some relatively known TSPers and a few of them also had red (l2.apews.org for example) so I'm wondering what is going on.

If there is a list of IPs I should check against then possibly PM it to me? Thanks.

For the people who showed up I'll try to do some more digging using the other tools mentioned such as IP address for geographical location\highlighting several people with the same host\and the NS tracker.

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#15

Don't worry about that; almost any IP will probably appear on at least one spam blacklist - mine appears on a half dozen - for no apparent reason. If someones IP shows up on a lot of them there may be a reason for it though.
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#16

(04-21-2014, 01:36 PM)Escade Wrote: In terms of IP check against known troublemakers, is that via Blacklist or something else?

You'll need to manually check them against an IP list gathered ingame through forums/IRC. IP's for habitual troublemakers - people like Tyler, for example - are generally exchanged between regional forum admin teams.
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#17

This sounds like a perfect candidate for automation. Why hasn't anybody created a central tool to check all this stuff?


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#18

Cause thatd be smart...
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#19

Because a central, secret, automated database of players IP's is probably not the kind of thing that should exist?
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#20

One NSA already does it. Why not the other? Tounge
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