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Ryccia · 05-31-2015, 11:32 AM

(05-31-2015, 12:07 AM)Apad Wrote: How is it obvious that puerto ricans want statehood if they have continually voted against joining the union?
What they seem to want is all the benefits of American subsidies on the island and american military security without having to pay the taxes or give up their puerto rican identity.

Ahem...

2012 Referendum, 61% statehood.

But the PPD(Partido Popular Democratico), who supports the ELA, got elected because of the terrible PNP administration(PNP is my political party, but I hated that governor). But now, the PPD administration is worse than the past one. I don't know what happened in there, but Im sure the PPD had to be involved in the results.

But I think there's going to be a plebiscite this year to decide it(Idk really, maybe yes, or maybe not?).

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Apad · 05-31-2015, 11:58 AM

The history professor Luis Agrait said to CNN that "a large number of ballots—one-third of all votes cast—were left blank on the question of preferred alternative status. If you assume those blank votes are anti-statehood votes, the true result for the statehood option would be less than 50%."

You can see here how the votes break down. Notice the large number of blank ballots.

Choice            Votes             %
Referendum passed Statehood    834,191     61.16
Free Association             454,768 33.34
Independence        74,895         5.49
Valid votes    1,363,854    72.59
Invalid/blank votes 515,115    27.41
Total             1,878,969      100
Registered voters/turnout     2,402,941        78.19

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Ryccia · 05-31-2015, 12:11 PM

Darn it.

Someday...

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05-31-2015, 12:24 PM

The Insular cases themselves were written by a racist that said it should only be a temporary measure. 114 years is not a temporary measure for this sort of thing.

~Professor Henn, Hardcore Leftist, Totally not a Dinosaur

Ryccia · 05-31-2015, 12:56 PM

(05-31-2015, 12:24 PM)ProfessorHenn Wrote: The Insular cases themselves were written by a racist that said it should only be a temporary measure. 114 years is not a temporary measure for this sort of thing.

~Professor Henn, Hardcore Leftist, Totally not a Dinosaur

Yup. Thanks to him, we ain't voting. He said that we can't understand "anglo-saxon values". WTF?! Everyone can understand them if you teach them! He's basically saying that we are savages!

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05-31-2015, 12:59 PM

You saw that episode of Last Week too, huh?

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Ryccia · 05-31-2015, 02:21 PM

Yeah.

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~~Wolf~~ · 05-31-2015, 05:18 PM

Puerto Rico has already contributed quite a lot to the United States, at least in terms of military service. Since the Korean War, there have been 9 Medal of Honor recipients from Puerto Rico, pretty damn respectable for an island of only 3.5 million that isn't even a state. There are also 10,000 Puerto Ricans serving active duty military personnel with another additional 20,000+ in the Reserve and Guard.

I'd say they've earned the right to be a state.

Ryccia · 05-31-2015, 07:00 PM

(05-31-2015, 05:18 PM)Wolf Wrote: Puerto Rico has already contributed quite a lot to the United States, at least in terms of military service. Since the Korean War, there have been 9 Medal of Honor recipients from Puerto Rico, pretty damn respectable for an island of only 3.5 million that isn't even a state. There are also 10,000 Puerto Ricans serving active duty military personnel with another additional 20,000+ in the Reserve and Guard.

I'd say they've earned the right to be a state.

Hmm, didn't knew that about my island. I always knew that puertorricans served in the military, but I did not knew that there were so many.

Now that I remember, a teacher in my school served in the military. He was in the Iraq War, I believe?

Yet he's not scary. He's actually nice!

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**Farengeto** · 06-01-2015, 08:17 AM

(05-31-2015, 11:58 AM)Apad Wrote: The history professor Luis Agrait said to CNN that "a large number of ballots—one-third of all votes cast—were left blank on the question of preferred alternative status. If you assume those blank votes are anti-statehood votes, the true result for the statehood option would be less than 50%."

You can see here how the votes break down. Notice the large number of blank ballots.

Choice            Votes             %
Referendum passed Statehood    834,191     61.16
Free Association             454,768 33.34
Independence        74,895         5.49
Valid votes    1,363,854    72.59
Invalid/blank votes 515,115    27.41
Total             1,878,969      100
Registered voters/turnout     2,402,941        78.19

The problem is that you assume every invalid vote is against, rather thst the more probable case that the distribution is similar to the valid votes.