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Crisis in Venezuela
#11

I would say something, but really, everyone knew that 8 million voter figure the Government gave was bullshit.

Saw something interesting last night on Facebook, a guy saying in a really incoherent rant that the Opposition had failed and that the only way to beat the Government was for everyone, police and military defectors, civilians, criminals, etc, to take arms against them. Then he went on to say that if Opposition politicians opposed that, to go against them as well.

I admit I'm a bit bitter and honestly don't give a crap anymore, but even I think openly calling for civil war is excessive.
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#12

After looking at the guy's posts more carefully, it seems he believes all leftists, even the ones opposing Maduro (like me) are in the same league as the Government and, as such, must be eliminated as well.

Fuck that guy.
RandomGuy199
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"The Nature Boy" Ric Flair
#13

It looks really bad from here. I hope Venezuela will pull through.


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#14

(08-03-2017, 08:29 PM)RandomGuy199 Wrote: After looking at the guy's posts more carefully, it seems he believes all leftists, even the ones opposing Maduro (like me) are in the same league as the Government and, as such, must be eliminated as well.

Fuck that guy.

You are not alone. I see all these tweets saying, "Liberals love Maduro. They are Maduro sympathizers." Then, they go after the people I voted for and have the gall to say that they want to turn the United States into Venezuela.

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#15

Yeah, that's something I've noticed. Venezuela is pretty much what a Republican politician pictures when hearing the word "socialism".

And in a related note, I have the feeling that, once the Chavistas are kicked out, socialism as an ideology will never recover. People will probably relate that word with Chávez, and it doesn't help that, of the myriad of centrist and leftist groups opposed to Maduro (despite what the Government says, most of the Opposition parties are either on the center or center-left), the biggest and most important ones are either historically corrupt or incompetent.

The best example of this is Acción Democrática (Democratic Action, AD), in theory social-democratic. Once the biggest party in the country, it alternated in power with centrist COPEI in a de facto two party system for almost 40 years, from the 1950's until 1994. After a good start, with President Rómulo Betancourt pretty much establishing a democracy from the ground-up, it became a corrupt mess, rigging elections, taking public funds, and the like. President Carlos Andrés Pérez (in his second mandate, the first one wasn't so bad) pretty much doubled down on this, embracing neoliberal policies during an economic crisis in the late 1980's, the exact opposite of the thing he was elected for. After bloody riots in 1989, where he ordered the security forces to fire on protesters, and two coup attempts against him (one of them led by Chávez), he was swiftly impeached and kicked out of office, the party being completely discredited. Now, even if the party is still a significant force, with some of its leaders having important positions in the National Assembly and the Opposition coalition, it still carries a huge stigma with a large part of the population. Lots of my family members were supporters of AD, and they switched to Chávez when he came along. Some of them, like my grandfather, are still Chavistas, and resent them to this day.
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#16

The Venezuelan Constitutional Assembly has removed Attorney General Luisa Ortega Díaz, Maduro's most powerful opponent, from power. She has been replaced by a supporter of Maduro, Tarek Saab.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-amer...ws_central
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#17

Venesuelan Army officers arrested after posting a video claiming that they were officially in rebellion against President Maduro. It is no longer just politicians and the masses in revolt. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-40843494

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#18

You forget the most important part: they assaulted a military base, and apparently some of them escaped, taking heavy weaponry with them.

This could be an isolated incident, or the start of something else. It depends on whether other units defect. We'll have to wait and see.
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"The Nature Boy" Ric Flair
#19

Maybe Trump and Maduro can cuddle together over their mutual hate for CNN.
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#20

Peru has expelled the Venezuelan ambassador.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezu...AR2B7?il=0


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