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A topic for another thread, or for MoRA in any case, but if we want to honour longstanding players, maybe orders and decorations would be a nice alternative.
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Posts outside High Court venues should be taken as those of any other legislator. I do not participate in the regional server, but I am happy to talk through instant messaging or on the forum. Legal Resources: THE MATT-DUCK Law Archive | Mavenu Diplomatic Archive | Rules of the High Court | Case Submission System | Online Rulings Consultation System (07-26-2017, 05:59 PM)Roavin Wrote: I have a somewhat more controversial idea that will surely get shot down. Instead of just leaving us wide open to anybody just applying and then stacking our votes, let's demand a small token show of dedication to our great region from those that wish to serve in its primary legislative body. Let's demand their WA. If you want to be a legislator, either your WA nation is in the South Pacific endorsing the legally elected Delegate, or is placed elsewhere with assent of the SPSF General Corps or the CRS. (07-26-2017, 07:55 PM)Altmoras Wrote: I don't think time requirements, outside of ridiculously long ones like 6+ months are very effective in preventing voter importation. The type of people who would undertake a massive scheme of voter importation to subvert our democracy to their own ends, are the same type of people who are capable of thinking more than a month or two in advance. (07-26-2017, 08:01 PM)Drugged Monkeys Wrote: Asking for WA is one way to help these types of situations. Support <3 Escade ~ Positions Held in TSP ~ Delegate | Vice Delegate Minister of Regional Affairs, | Minister of Foreign Affairs | Minister of Military Affairs ~ The Sparkly One ~ My Pinterest
It's less about honoring older players, and more about knowing them to be trustworthy, loyal TSPers. While there's always an exception (Milograd comes to mind here), most who have given years of Assembly and Cabinet service should be trusted enough not to be coming back just to influence an election or muddle in Assembly business.
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I was going to wait till my legislator app was (hopefully) accepted, but I have to speak now.
Are we seriously considering creating a two-tier system of legislators? Is the oldest democracy in NS going to restrict the right to vote and stand as a candidate, the most basic democratic rights? We already stop accepting legislator apps just before and during elections, and I think we could tell if there was a sudden rush of apps right before an election that something was up. Can we also think on the devastating effect this would have on our integration efforts. Imagine being a new member to the region and being told that you aren't allowed to vote because we don't trust you enough. Are you really going to want to stay? If we are worried about people trying to influence elections and votes in the Assembly, then we should as others have suggested makes our legislator apps tougher. Yet we should not be attacking or restricting basic democracy. Europeian Ambassador to The South Pacific
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You can blatantly lie in an application. You'll still be accepted if we're unaware. Our admins don't have every IP address of all NSers, and maybe not even know who they are. We must provide additional security, given what has happened in our history and in other GCRs.
This is not a problem of the past. Lazarus has experienced it just recently, or it is claimed. It can hit us. If not now, later. Just because you live in a democracy does not mean you can vote on it instantly. Minors don't vote. Non-citizen immigrants can't vote. Given the threat that a crime like this faces, we must take appropiate steps to protect our democracy, and not fall to the a trap like Lazarus did. Even in the BLT Incident! Right here, just a few years ago! Can we risk it? Surely not at the moment, but maybe a few years or maybe months from now, could this happen? We must learn and prevent the problem, not let it happen. We must be prepared at all costs, like a battle-ready fortress. Our democracy is strong, but we musn't lower our guard. We must be alert, and prepare for a possible scenario. Besides, I am only proposing two months. Sure, it won't make voter fraud impossible, but it and other ideas being discussed here could help reduce a threat of such magnitude. If you really wish to be invested in TSP, this is a good place to start. Think of it as an initiation, a trial. Besides, there are other places to participate in: regional affairs, military ops, roleplay, spam, and, according to my proposal, even legislative votes. If you want to truly stay here, prove it.
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Local Council Member(April 24-August 11) Court Justice of TSP(August 15-December 7) (07-27-2017, 08:50 AM)Rebeltopia Wrote: It's less about honoring older players, and more about knowing them to be trustworthy, loyal TSPers. While there's always an exception (Milograd comes to mind here), most who have given years of Assembly and Cabinet service should be trusted enough not to be coming back just to influence an election or muddle in Assembly business. This ^ Escade ~ Positions Held in TSP ~ Delegate | Vice Delegate Minister of Regional Affairs, | Minister of Foreign Affairs | Minister of Military Affairs ~ The Sparkly One ~ My Pinterest
Fun fact: Rebeltopia was the main sponsor (or at least a strong advocate) of the Lifetime Citizenship Act, before the Milograd Coup.
Former Delegate of the South Pacific
Posts outside High Court venues should be taken as those of any other legislator. I do not participate in the regional server, but I am happy to talk through instant messaging or on the forum. Legal Resources: THE MATT-DUCK Law Archive | Mavenu Diplomatic Archive | Rules of the High Court | Case Submission System | Online Rulings Consultation System
Would it be possible to spilt the difference here and allow voting but not running in an election for a time?
I agree with Punch, I'm not fond of a two-tiered system here, for many of the reasons he's noted. We already have a hard time getting/keeping active players and this won't help. I would, however, not oppose an extension on running for office. Maybe be an active legislator for a full term? Something like that?
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And I'd still be in favor... but TSP isn't, and that's where it dies.
A list of trustworthy players who have given more than their fair share of time and effort to this region should be treated with respect, enough that, if we add stipulations to legislature status, these people should have their time waiting reduced/removed. Sent from my SGH-M919 using Tapatalk
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Deranged in NS since 2011 One and ONLY minion of LadyRebels The OUTRAGEOUS CRAZY other half of LadyElysium (07-28-2017, 09:45 AM)Tsunamy Wrote: Would it be possible to spilt the difference here and allow voting but not running in an election for a time? "X. To be eligible as a candidate for election to an office, you must have voted in the previous election for that office" IE; six+ months for Delegate, four+ months for Cabinet or Chair Minister of Media, Subversion and Sandwich Making
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