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3rd APC Party Summit Platform Discussion - 2017
#11

(10-24-2017, 04:17 PM)Drall Wrote:
(10-23-2017, 08:11 PM)Griffindor13 Wrote: The High Court of the South Pacific
Quote:The High Court of the South Pacific is the sole judicial institution of the region, and is tasked with the important duty of clearing up legal matters and conducting trials. The court should always enforce and rule in a non-biased manner. The court should be selective of the cases it hears to insure that a case that can be handled by the Assembly is handled by the Assembly. The court should always keep case records updated and neat, and in an easily accessible place for ease of access and reference. The court should also breed the next generation of judges by maintain and regularly using Law Clerks for case study and deliberation.

Thoughts?

Looks good for our thoughts on the Court's purpose.

I'd like to pose the following question though - How exactly do we want to approach Court reform, especially given how prominent this question has recently become?

I was going to stick it in there, but there *is* a court reform plan being rolled out soon, and including it in the platform would end up being short lived.
-Griffindor/Ebonhand
-Current Roles/Positions
-Legislator 2/24/20-
-High Court Justice 6/7/20-
-South Pacific Coral Guard 11/17/20-
-Minister of Engagement 6/17/22-


-Past Roles/Positions
-Legislator 7/3/16-4/10/18
-Secretary of State 4/3/20-2/24/21

-Chair of the APC 9/24/16-5/31/17
-Vice-Chair of the APC 6/1/17-4/10/18
-Local Council Member 7/1/17-11/17/17
-Citizen 5/2012-12/2014 and  2/26/16-7/3/2016
#12

The Ministry of Regional Affairs
Quote:The Ministry of Regional Affairs, also known as MoRA, is a broad ministry encompassing the disciplines of integration, outreach, and communications. This ministry is tasked to inform and to entertain citizens through various media such as radio and paper and through various platforms such as the game-side community, the forum-side community, and the discord community. In order for the ministry to function efficiently, proper document handling through an online cloud must be done. It is the minister's duty to delegate the tasks to fellows and to maximize limited resources and manpower in the ministry.

#13

(10-26-2017, 01:55 AM)Spenty Wrote: The Ministry of Regional Affairs
Quote:The Ministry of Regional Affairs, also known as MoRA, is a broad ministry encompassing the disciplines of integration, outreach, and communications. This ministry is tasked to inform and to entertain citizens through various media such as radio and paper and through various platforms such as the game-side community, the forum-side community, and the discord community. In order for the ministry to function efficiently, proper document handling through an online cloud must be done. It is the minister's duty to delegate the tasks to fellows and to maximize limited resources and manpower in the ministry.

Good start! With this one, I do feel that we need to mention something about splitting this ministry..
-Griffindor/Ebonhand
-Current Roles/Positions
-Legislator 2/24/20-
-High Court Justice 6/7/20-
-South Pacific Coral Guard 11/17/20-
-Minister of Engagement 6/17/22-


-Past Roles/Positions
-Legislator 7/3/16-4/10/18
-Secretary of State 4/3/20-2/24/21

-Chair of the APC 9/24/16-5/31/17
-Vice-Chair of the APC 6/1/17-4/10/18
-Local Council Member 7/1/17-11/17/17
-Citizen 5/2012-12/2014 and  2/26/16-7/3/2016
#14

(10-26-2017, 11:41 PM)Griffindor13 Wrote:
(10-26-2017, 01:55 AM)Spenty Wrote: The Ministry of Regional Affairs
Quote:The Ministry of Regional Affairs, also known as MoRA, is a broad ministry encompassing the disciplines of integration, outreach, and communications. This ministry is tasked to inform and to entertain citizens through various media such as radio and paper and through various platforms such as the game-side community, the forum-side community, and the discord community. In order for the ministry to function efficiently, proper document handling through an online cloud must be done. It is the minister's duty to delegate the tasks to fellows and to maximize limited resources and manpower in the ministry.

Good start! With this one, I do feel that we need to mention something about splitting this ministry..

I wasn't aware that was our stance. On such a controversial topic, I'd like to see a longer discussion.

Marius Rahl

Fortitudine Vincimus!
#15

(10-26-2017, 11:43 PM)Drall Wrote:
(10-26-2017, 11:41 PM)Griffindor13 Wrote:
(10-26-2017, 01:55 AM)Spenty Wrote: The Ministry of Regional Affairs
Quote:The Ministry of Regional Affairs, also known as MoRA, is a broad ministry encompassing the disciplines of integration, outreach, and communications. This ministry is tasked to inform and to entertain citizens through various media such as radio and paper and through various platforms such as the game-side community, the forum-side community, and the discord community. In order for the ministry to function efficiently, proper document handling through an online cloud must be done. It is the minister's duty to delegate the tasks to fellows and to maximize limited resources and manpower in the ministry.

Good start! With this one, I do feel that we need to mention something about splitting this ministry..

I wasn't aware that was our stance. On such a controversial topic, I'd like to see a longer discussion.

Haha exactly! We need to determine if we do support it, or don't support it, and if we don't support it what do we think should change. Historically the APC supported splitting the ministry though.
-Griffindor/Ebonhand
-Current Roles/Positions
-Legislator 2/24/20-
-High Court Justice 6/7/20-
-South Pacific Coral Guard 11/17/20-
-Minister of Engagement 6/17/22-


-Past Roles/Positions
-Legislator 7/3/16-4/10/18
-Secretary of State 4/3/20-2/24/21

-Chair of the APC 9/24/16-5/31/17
-Vice-Chair of the APC 6/1/17-4/10/18
-Local Council Member 7/1/17-11/17/17
-Citizen 5/2012-12/2014 and  2/26/16-7/3/2016
#16

Drall - my opinion is that historically less amiable regions have earned very little in the way of anything even respect if the regions in question are Balder and Osiris. Moreso the FA should work towards relations with amiable regions instead of wasting time with not only the reprehensible players in the game but with regions that threaten our democracy and players.  We don't need them. They are the ones trying to control or corrupt us. We don't want them here.

Griffindor - great draft.  Maybe add something about the Court interpreting ambiguity in our law to support the spirit of the law?

For regional affairs (like CoA) I support splitting the position but we may need to discuss what that looks like.

Escade

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#17

Well that's why I didn't place that yet. I think that MoRA would be unproductive if it's a very clunked ministry. I mean like broad ministries are very hard to deal with, especially if you have like 3 active fellows (No, I'm not kidding). I'm keen on dividing it between Communications and Outreach & Integration (MoOaIA is weird, but who cares XD).

#18

(10-27-2017, 05:18 PM)Escade Wrote: Drall - my opinion is that historically less amiable regions have earned very little in the way of anything even respect if the regions in question are Balder and Osiris. Moreso the FA should work towards relations with amiable regions instead of wasting time with not only the reprehensible players in the game but with regions that threaten our democracy and players.  We don't need them. They are the ones trying to control or corrupt us. We don't want them here.

I'm personally of the opinion that merely because regions are unfriendly to us, we do not need to represent an unfriendly and unpleasant attitude towards them. I'm not advocating for an extreme devotion of attention and resources to such regions, merely to show that we're not descending to their level and are still interested in improving relations. Note that I'm not applying this to any specific regions, but leaving it as a general statement.

This could merit further discussion, if anyone else would like to voice their views.

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Quote:For regional affairs (like CoA) I support splitting the position but we may need to discuss what that looks like.

Chair of the Assembly falls into the regional affairs? I'd think CoA would be better put as its own category or part of Assembly platform, unless you're using CoA as an acronym I'm not familiar with.

Yeah, we definitely should discuss exactly how we want to do this. Give the CRS the power to process Applications? Support the whole "Registrar" idea? Or something else entirely?

Marius Rahl

Fortitudine Vincimus!
#19

As in I support splitting MoRA and CoA both for similar reasons for the latter point.

For the former point, no I do not at this point advocate "turning the other cheek" when it comes to hostile regions because I tried that for my entire first term and that results were only ramped up despicable behavior which is why my second term was so much more colorful.  From personal experience, my belief is that caving into or rewarding disgusting behavior only gives abusive people the chance to actually increase their hostile behavior.

Escade

~ Positions Held in TSP ~
Delegate | Vice Delegate 
Minister of Regional Affairs, | Minister of Foreign Affairs | 
Minister of Military Affairs
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#20

At the risk of displaying my ignorance, I'll attempt to wade into this conversation, mostly just with stylistic suggestions. I've bolded any changes that intentionally change the meaning of the text simply for convenience.
Quote:The High Court of the South Pacific is the sole judicial institution of the region, and is tasked with the important duty of clearing up legal matters and conducting trials. The cCourt should always enforce and rule in an non-unbiased manner. The courtand should be selective of the cases it hears to iensure that a case that can be handled by the Assembly is handled by the Assemblyit does not unnecessarily handle cases that can be resolved by other bodies. The should always keep case records updated and neat so that they can be easily accessed and referenced, and in an easily accessible place for ease of access and reference. The cCourt should also breed the next generation of judges by maintaining and regularly usingcollaborating with and delegating work to Law Clerks for case study and deliberation.

End Result:
Quote:The High Court of the South Pacific is the sole judicial institution of the region, and is tasked with the important duty of clearing up legal matters and conducting trials. The Court should always enforce and rule in an unbiased manner. The court, and should be selective of the cases it hears to ensure that it does not unnecessarily handle cases that can be resolved by other bodies. The Court should always keep case records updated and neat so that they can be easily accessed and referenced. The Court should also breed the next generation of maintaining maintain and regularly collaborating with and delegating work to Law Clerks for case study and deliberation.
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