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(11-03-2017, 02:34 PM)Belschaft Wrote: How would you deal with this hypothetical scenario;Proceed as normal. It's not for the CoA to decide. That's an issue for the court. (11-03-2017, 07:36 PM)Pronoun Wrote:Yeah, as I said, I'd be against the current one-sentence rule, I specifically think moderation needs to be done on a case-by-case basis. I think that as long as it doesn't slow down debate, we don't need to be deleting posts like some over-conscious moderator.(11-03-2017, 11:45 AM)rolandarmstrong Wrote: I'd definitely be supportive of loosening moderation policy. (11-03-2017, 10:32 PM)Drall Wrote:(11-03-2017, 11:45 AM)rolandarmstrong Wrote: However, I'd definitely be supportive of loosening moderation policy. Absolutely not. While this may seem like it's true, the moderation policy in the assembly currently doesn't fuel debate, as it should, and prevents debate from happening. Thanks for the questions, guys, I enjoy answering them, keep them coming! Signed,
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Could you elaborate on how the current moderation policy prevents debate from happening? The only thing I can see it preventing is useless posts.
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(11-04-2017, 01:43 PM)Drall Wrote: Could you elaborate on how the current moderation policy prevents debate from happening? The only thing I can see it preventing is useless posts. It is apparent to me that we disagree on the meaning of "useless." Current policy drones on about "less than one sentence" posts being useless. I think that you can't really define policy making in such a simplistic way as the current moderation policy. There's a lot more to it that Farengeto realises. Maybe it's just me, but there have been multiple times when I made a post that got deleted due to the moderation policy even though it was unobjectively useful. Signed,
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Seargant of HYDRA Talon of Firehehlm Munifiex of The Roman Empire (11-04-2017, 05:57 PM)rolandarmstrong Wrote:(11-04-2017, 01:43 PM)Drall Wrote: Could you elaborate on how the current moderation policy prevents debate from happening? The only thing I can see it preventing is useless posts. I know this is your campaign, but since it deals with me I thought I would comment. The one sentence rule was never supposed to be a complete moderation policy. However nearly any case where it applied contributed nearly nothing to the debate. Phrases like "full support" don't really contribute much on their own, personally I've the sheer number that some proposals received negatively effected debate by burying chances for true discussion under a wave of largely uncritical support. Even something like the repeated seconds say little beyond "I will probably vote Aye", something made largely refundant when the actual vote gegs created soon after. Virtually anything less than a sentence long can say a lot more in the debate by simply adding a few more words. And unless I'm mistaken I only had to enforce this particular rule once, for a post consisting only of a single '^'. I don't think one can reasonably argue a post like that contributed much to the debate.
Since numerous censures on Assembly protocol haven't changed your mind, I doubt I'll be able to. Thanks for your answers nevertheless.
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No problem, keep the questions coming!
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Seargant of HYDRA Talon of Firehehlm Munifiex of The Roman Empire (11-04-2017, 05:57 PM)rolandarmstrong Wrote:(11-04-2017, 01:43 PM)Drall Wrote: Could you elaborate on how the current moderation policy prevents debate from happening? The only thing I can see it preventing is useless posts. I kind of see your point, but this rule at least reduces the amount of meaningless posts which would restrict and discourage debate. If they wanted to support, there's the like button. However, if you were CoA, do you have any alternative to the one-sentence rule? I have one more question. Forgive me if this is Ad Hominem or Fallacy of Division, but if you are elected CoA, you are expected to be a role model. Will we expect you to be more professional in public (May it be forum-based, discord-based, or in-game based) and private discourse (PMs and DMs)?
Quote:I kind of see your point, but this rule at least reduces the amount of meaningless posts which would restrict and discourage debate. If they wanted to support, there's the like button. However, if you were CoA, do you have any alternative to the one-sentence rule? Sure, thanks for the interesting questions. I'm going to enjoy answering them, and I hope they'll shed a lot of light on what I would do as CoA. For the moderation policy, I think we need to edit it from "one sentence" to "useful information," because trust me, there's a difference..."^" is a useful post, while "I like pizza" typically isn't regarded as such. As for professionalism, I think CoA is a big responsibility, and anything that someone in that position says may be incorrectly regarded as an official statement of the South Pacific just because the office is so high. I think that carries a lot of responsibility. As CoA, I'd strive to keep my interactions with other legislators limited outside of a formal context in order for the misinterpretations not to happen. However, I'd still want to be approachable in order to help new legislators. Signed,
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I struggle to see the usefulness of "^", myself, so could you elucidate on how you see "^" as useful and furthering debate?
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Could you elaborate on how "^" is a useful post, as opposed to a post where the person explains what exactly they are agreeing with, and expressing any other thoughts, input or concerns they might have about the bill under consideration?
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