That's a weird argument to make. What prevents those 700+ WA nations from being recruited now, that would change if membership was restricted to them?

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I answered NO to this poll because Legislators already get pruned for being inactive (missing 2-3 votes)
and there are already 30+ Legislators
You will lose a sizable fraction if you do this

That’s a TSP niche of open admissions, keep it this way.


The only reason the requirement worked for TEP is because new Magisters needed to be voted by other Magisters to be voted IN. 10-19 magisters at any given time— the WA requirement was needed initially because many of those members did not get pruned for being inactive- they had to be voted out. These inactives kept failing votes for being inactive, they were dedicated to outside regions and paid no attention to TEP.

(This post was last modified: 10-28-2018, 03:52 PM by Yuno.)

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However, if SPSF permits multi military membership without stringent requirements on what I can do in the update fields, I can join SPSF and support this. Currently I’m trying to increase my activity in the R/D field (because it’s fun, not because of politics) and I don’t need my WA status restricted to one region.

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Yuno — are magistrates the same as our Assembly? It sounds different ...

While I agree that activity isn't likely to go up from this ... it would make it less likely to get outside influence here. (Something that gets talked about a lot.)

Does someone have a sense of how other democratic feeders handle this? I don't believe TNP requires a WA?

If it's *security* we're concerned about, what about making it so that people running for office must have a WA nation in the region? Or at least that the WA nation is known?

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Yuno — are magistrates the same as our Assembly? It sounds different ...

While I agree that activity isn't likely to go up from this ... it would make it less likely to get outside influence here. (Something that gets talked about a lot.)

Does someone have a sense of how other democratic feeders handle this? I don't believe TNP requires a WA?

If it's *security* we're concerned about, what about making it so that people running for office must have a WA nation in the region? Or at least that the WA nation is known?

Magisters are TEP’s equivalent to TSP’s Legislators. However, it is hard to become a Magister because new applicants need to be voted in and pass majority by all the other magistes. Like Senator confirmations. The voting process takes one week, so it takes a bit over one week for an applicant to get in. For TSP, it takes one day.
Now in the past, TEP was stuffed full of yes-men so everyone got in, especially busy-elsewhere inactives who would not be removed despite missing so many votes. The WA-for-magisterium and newly added membership restrictions (like requirement to be a citizen for a month and work in the executive programs to have a shot at applying) curtailed that and managed to prune most of these dead weight members— leading to an active small magisterium that manages to get laws passed easier, rather than a giant magisterium of dead waste that fails so many votes due to votes not reaching quorum.

TEP is not TSP though. TSP’s process is simple: anyone can apply, and new applicants don’t need to be voted on. Their IP address gets checked by the Leg Commissioner who approves their application, and bam they’re a legislator in one day. If you miss votes here, you get removed.


As for TNP, literally ANY citizen can propose new laws, law amendments, and vote on laws— all of them. WA status is not needed. Any citizen can vote or propose.

So TSP is not the most restrictive region, and not the most open region- but somewhere in the middle.

(This post was last modified: 10-28-2018, 05:08 PM by Yuno.)

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Thanks Yuno — I think this is a good perspective to have.

-tsunamy
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Somewhat of a sidetrack but two questions for @Yuno:

(1) Do TEP admins perform security checks on new members to the Magisterium.

(2) What is the origin story for TEP's government terminology?

@Kris Kringle

It would make no difference to whether WAs are recruited. I expect there to be an exhaustive recruitment effort in the next couple of months regardless.

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