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Nakari · 06-22-2019, 03:30 PM

(06-22-2019, 03:26 PM)Ski Slopes of Agalaesia Wrote: Do you think introducing a system of leave for LegComm make it easier for people to apply.If each member of the LegComm was entitled to, say, a months leave, or possibly two in exceptional circumstances, would help with finding extra members for LegComm?

LegComm requires constant attention, and it is a role I would embrace (if I would have enough seniority and time to take it on), however, it just requires a constant eye towards the forum, and, it therefore isn't a viable option for many.

Legislator Committee members are allowed to take LoAs like any other government member. The issue is that Legcomm members need to be very highly trusted because they will be seeing real life information. And a lot of our highly trusted people just don't want to do it, even if they don't have to do it all the time Tounge

Aga · 06-22-2019, 03:33 PM

Why is an Email required in an application, either ways?

Couldn't it be replaced by something else?

Secondly, under my proposals, LegComm members appointed by the ministry have only to reply to their ministry applications. Most Ministry applications do not include a requirement for email anyway.

I also dd not read your posts which mentioned LoA before posting my post...

I now look rather foolish!

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**USoVietnam** · 06-22-2019, 03:41 PM

(06-22-2019, 03:33 PM)Ski Slopes of Agalaesia Wrote: Why is an Email required in an application, either ways?

Couldn't it be replaced by something else?

Secondly, under my proposals, LegComm members appointed by the ministry have only to reply to their ministry applications. Most Ministry applications do not include a requirement for email anyway.

I also dd not read your posts which mentioned LoA before posting my post...

I now look rather foolish!

Emails are required to verify your real-life identity to avoid shady players and they are checked on our admin panel. Email checking is done in the background without your knowledge like every other online community which requires high trust.

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Aga · 06-22-2019, 03:44 PM

(06-22-2019, 03:41 PM)USoVietnam Wrote: Emails are required to verify your real-life identity to avoid shady players and they are checked on our admin panel. Email checking is done in the background without your knowledge like every other online community which requires high trust.

But, even Email checking cannot rid us of shady players. How about asking for another piece of info instead, or look at how long a nation has been in TSP before accepting them for legislatorship.

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**Belschaft** · 06-22-2019, 05:34 PM

(06-22-2019, 03:44 PM)Ski Slopes of Agalaesia Wrote:
(06-22-2019, 03:41 PM)USoVietnam Wrote: Emails are required to verify your real-life identity to avoid shady players and they are checked on our admin panel. Email checking is done in the background without your knowledge like every other online community which requires high trust.

But, even Email checking cannot rid us of shady players. How about asking for another piece of info instead, or look at how long a nation has been in TSP before accepting them for legislatorship.

Trust me when I say that no security check - no matter how invasive - will be 100% reliable. You have to find a reasonable balance between security and common sense.

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Aga · 06-23-2019, 06:39 AM

Yes, but couldn't players at least be made aware that email checks are in place? I do not understand how they are effective (though I may be missing out on the elephant in the room). At least players could have an option to opt out?

Secondly, email checking without the persons express permission may be illegal under EU GDPR rules. So, I highly recommend having someone check the laws out. I'm no lawyer, don't get me wrong, but, as someone whoose acquaintances work as computer softawre engineers and run small businesses, I happen to hear quite a lot about GDPR. Is email checking included in the site's T and C's?

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**USoVietnam** · 06-23-2019, 10:04 AM

(06-23-2019, 06:39 AM)Ski Slopes of Agalaesia Wrote: Yes, but couldn't players at least be made aware that email checks are in place? I do not understand how they are effective (though I may be missing out on the elephant in the room). At least players could have an option to opt out?

Secondly, email checking without the persons express permission may be illegal under EU GDPR rules. So, I highly recommend having someone check the laws out. I'm no lawyer, don't get me wrong, but, as someone whoose acquaintances work as computer softawre engineers and run small businesses, I happen to hear quite a lot about GDPR. Is email checking included in the site's T and C's?

Our forum has a term and condition section when you sign up, the fact that your IP (which is actually more invasive than email) and email will be looked over is clear written in there, NationStates admins themselves also do the same thing to you but automatically. If you disagree with the policy, you are free to not signing up. Every region does this, not only our region. In fact, our region is very light on that part, R/D regions may have far stricter check than us.

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**USoVietnam** · 06-23-2019, 10:09 AM

Anyway, let get back to the main problem. We should copy the way TNP or TEP is handling their application, it is effective and our region has the same executive structure as them. It is not necessary to reinvent the wheel, a far more inefficient wheel.

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Bzerneleg · 06-23-2019, 11:03 AM

I don't see a problem with not allowing people to apply for legislatorship and ministry membership at the same time. The two are drastically different things and won't work if you combine them together. It's like applying for a new passport and a visa. You have to go your country's government's agency that deals with passports to get a new one. For a visa, you have to go the embassy of the nation you seek to visit. Same as legislatorship and ministry membership, they cannot and should not be done simultaneously.

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Aga · 06-23-2019, 04:02 PM

Bzern, what is you could apply for both a passport and a visa online, though?

I'm taking this analogy out of context!

I think that my proposals aren't clear enough, however, it says that the members of the LegComm who are appointed by a ministry will handle applications for a ministry. The LegComm could do it in different threads etc. This is just an idea to bring ministry applications to one location.

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