Bernie has 42% in delegate count minus superdelegates. If he was unelectable, he would not be in the race anymore.


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(03-12-2016, 01:09 PM)Cathalea Wrote: Bernie has 42% in delegate count minus superdelegates. If he was unelectable, he would not be in the race anymore.


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Right. He would have pulled an O'Malley, because he would have totally lost in Iowa.

Instead, he held Hillary Clinton to a tie that was so close it was not even statistically significant, won New Hampshire in a landslide, and pulled off one of the biggest upsets of all time by taking Michigan.

(03-13-2016, 07:59 AM)Darkstrait Wrote: Right. He would have pulled an O'Malley, because he would have totally lost in Iowa.

Instead, he held Hillary Clinton to a tie that was so close it was not even statistically significant, won New Hampshire in a landslide, and pulled off one of the biggest upsets of all time by taking Michigan.

Did he? He did basically tie in Iowa, he won New Hampshire by a very large margin yet Clinton's won more "landslides" if we say a landslide is more than 60%. 10 in total the largest she won with 82.6% of the vote that's an avalanche. He won Michigan which was unexpected yet only by 1.5% of the vote and I haven't seen any stories that describe it as an unset, a shock yes but no one but Sanders supports are making much of a deal about it.

(03-15-2016, 05:52 PM)Punchwood Wrote: I haven't seen any stories that describe it as an unset

Every source I've read calls it an upset.

(03-15-2016, 05:54 PM)Kris Kringle Wrote: Every source I've read calls it an upset.

Not all. It's the way in which Sanders supports use the word. They use it as if there was no chance on earth for him to win and then he defied all the odds  and defeated this evil establishment women. It was unexpected that's it, at the end of the day he only won by 1.5% not that good of a win.

Not all in the establishment are women.

(03-15-2016, 06:02 PM)Punchwood Wrote:

(03-15-2016, 05:54 PM)Kris Kringle Wrote: Every source I've read calls it an upset.

Not all. It's the way in which Sanders supports use the word. They use it as if there was no chance on earth for him to win and then he defied all the odds  and defeated this evil establishment women. It was unexpected that's it, at the end of the day he only won by 1.5% not that good of a win.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what...gan-means/
"Sanders’s win in Michigan was one of the greatest upsets in modern political history."

http://time.com/4252113/bernie-sanders-m...t-primary/
"The Vermont Senator won a major victory in Michigan’s primary, snatching a heavily fought-over prize from Hillary Clinton and upsetting polling and predictions."

It was unexpected by 20 points on most polls. People don't just magically come up with those numbers Punch. They aren't just conjured out of thin air by the "Prediction Magician". It was absolutely an upset, even if you don't believe it. People RARELY come back from numbers that low, the Sanders people didn't even think they would win. Even Five-thirty-Eight, who are actually fairly balanced in their reporting, and mainly use polling an numbers for their news piece, gave him a 1% chance to win. If you win something that you only had a 1% chance to win against a veteran opponent, is that not an Upset? If so, I'd LOVE to hear your definition of it.


As for the whole "Defeated the evil establishment women" thing, You do know that this isn't just about DWS and HRC, right? There are plenty of corrupt men in the establishment that we're looking forward to taking down a peg(Chuck Schumer, Andrew Cuomo). Just because HRC and DWS happen to be the current face of the establishment doesn't mean that us Bernie supporters aren't looking at the others with scrutiny.

Yes it was an upset but stop treating it as if it means he will win every state from now on. The real test is tonight.

Rubio has suspended his campaign, Trump has won Florida and is leading in most states. Clinton has won North Carolina and Florida and is leading in Ohio and Illinois. However the exist poll does say Sander will win Illinois and Missouri but it is very close.

(03-15-2016, 06:51 PM)Punchwood Wrote: Yes it was an upset but stop treating it as if it means he will win every state from now on. The real test is tonight.

No one was treating it as if it meant he was going to win in every state after Michigan. No one.