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The problem is, new people dont know/respect the conventions, cause they arent written down - even if its not in the law.
"...if you're normal, the crowd will accept you. But if you're deranged, the crowd will make you their leader." - Christopher Titus
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That is a problem with people, in my view, not convention. Not everything is appropriate to be written into law - unwritten rules and social norms are just as important as codified principles.
(06-24-2014, 03:18 PM)Sir Pitt Wrote: That is a problem with people, in my view, not convention. My point exactly. But if those things arent written down SOMEWHERE - doesnt have to be law - then they'll never be respected. The rate of new users here is enough that traditions go out the window. That is why our holidays are written into law. But, like I said. It doesnt have to be written into law, just written somewhere on these forums so they are learned and respected.
"...if you're normal, the crowd will accept you. But if you're deranged, the crowd will make you their leader." - Christopher Titus
Deranged in NS since 2011 One and ONLY minion of LadyRebels The OUTRAGEOUS CRAZY other half of LadyElysium
Just to be clear about this, what conventions are we talking about?
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The problem with social norms is that they change. We cannot hold them steady nor would we want to.
I agree with RT in that we should have them written somewhere ... if we expect them to be followed.
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I've never been a fan of "conventions". They just get ignored when people want to.
Just like Unibots. Sorry, but it was too easy.
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Just for the sake of argument, should we return to the original topic of this thread, which is whether Justices and Deputies should hold both positions at any given time?
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I do not believe that they should, but that this shouldn't be part of law given that we may need people to hold two positions in special situations.
(07-06-2014, 06:53 AM)Sir Pitt Wrote: I do not believe that they should, but that this shouldn't be part of law given that we may need people to hold two positions in special situations. I don't believe that there is a situation in which it would be acceptable. If a Deputy, a member of the Cabinet, were also to serve as a Justice, it would be an obvious conflict of interests. In special situations where we need Government positions to be filled, we hold Special Elections. A Junior Member of the Cabinet is still a member of the Cabinet, and therefor should not be allowed to hold a position as Justice, or visa versa, and I believe that this should be clarified in the law.
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