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JOLLY COOPERATION - Wolf for MoFA
#51

(03-22-2015, 12:19 PM)Escade Wrote: Why are there so many rumors about you being a destructive force and causing more harm then good?

Ah, I now find this to be a very ironic question, considering you've been sending this telegram out, Escade:

Quote:Hi,

This is Escade.

I am asking you to reconsider your vote for Wolf as MoFA.  

While I am welcoming to newcomers and was once a newcomer myself, I believe that Foreign Affairs is an area where we need a MoFa who has proven that they care about and will support TSP.

Wolf is not that candidate. He came into this region, as once before, with an agenda that it is not about TSP but his own interests and pursuits. In the past he disappeared when he didn't get what he wanted and I am appalled that he is here once again without having built a record of service to the region.

While I welcome him to participate in our region and join MoRA, I do not feel that he is a strong candidate for foreign affairs in TSP.

Even though Sandaoguo is not perfect, he has worked in TSP for over two years.  Should he win I plan to apply to be his deputy and work with him to balance the areas where he needs more empathy.

Regardless of what you choose, I wanted to share my thoughts.

Best,
Escade

It seems the rumors are partly of your own creation. How very disappointing that you would resort to character attacks and other underhanded tactics simply for your preferred candidate to win an election.

I had thought you above that.
#52

What I've read here is a thoughtful platform that will move us away from the "Glen-Rhodes lethargy" that boldly proclaimed "we are not good enough to have an active MoFA". I am eager to cast my vote for Wolf in this election. I am also disappointed in Escades's hackjob campaign that seeks to discredit a qualified candidate. We are all citizens, no? We all have the right to seek public office, aren't I correct? There are not different levels of citizenship that confer different rights. We all have the right to seek public office, and I am damn glad that Wolf is.
Formerly Relevant, Currently Former.
#53

(03-22-2015, 02:06 AM)Wolf Wrote: Or perhaps one that does not monologue in the others campaign thread. Rude.

It's not rude to point out serious flaws in your agenda. You are running for an office where you will have a lot of control over TSP's reputation in the game for the next 4 months. Forgive me if I think you should be scrutinized. I would welcome your input in my campaign, as well.

(03-22-2015, 02:06 AM)Wolf Wrote: This is a disturbing implication. What Glen is essentially saying is that we can no longer be Independent, that having relations with both Defender and Crasher groups is impossible and that we must pick a side, specifically the Defender side.

I find this to be bias, with Glen acting out of self interest rather than towards regional goals, and this worries me.

It's not "disturbing" unless you find all of Gameplay politics disturbing. You want to bring TSP back into a situation where we are allied with imperialists, when we all know that imperialists want to control TSP's foreign affairs as a prerequisite to any alliance. TNI told us not to ally with any defenders. Imperialists orchestrated the diplomatic blow-up over the Independence Conference, telling us that we weren't "Independent enough" and we needed to prove ourselves by publicly dissing our defender allies.

This is a political game. We cannot pretend that throwing around "Independent" like a magical word will solve everything and make everybody get along. Defenders will look upon your agenda with skepticism, because you want to bring TSP closer to imperialists. Imperialists will want you to diminish existing ties with defenders and preclude new defender relations as a prerequisite to closer relations with their sphere.

That's the political reality of the game. But you're saying that, by some virtue of simply you being you and TSP being "Independent," you'll be able to get defenders to sign on to mutual defense pacts (the most difficult treaties to negotiate) and you'll be able to get raiders and imperialists to unilaterally disarm themselves with non-aggression pacts, all during the same 4 month term, with neither of those groups getting anything out of it. That's very wishful thinking. Those of us who know how Gameplay politics works should be honest with voters about how incredibly unlikely it is that any of that will happen.
#54

Glen, I am confused as to why you keep pointing to TNI like they are the only imperialist region in Nationstates. TNI is not all of imperialism, not by a long shot.

I'm concerned, however, that your anti-imperialist attitude will lead you to try and disband our treaty with Europeia, since they in the past have leaned imperialist. You yourself have just stated in your own campaign thread that you believe imperialists are very bad allies to have.

Will you aim to break our treaty with Europeia as part of your anti-imperialist agenda, Glen?
#55

The Imperialist sphere is led by a handful of people in this game, as you well know. Europeia delivered their ultimatum at the behest of those players, because they were being pressured. Those players -- and you can identify them simply by looking at the TNI/UIAF leadership -- like to control their allies' foreign affairs. They did it to TSP, and they will certainly want to do so again if, for some awful reason, our next MoFA wants to court them as allies and the rest of the Cabinet goes along with it.

Europeia certainly didn't behave like a good ally by caving into pressure like that. As far as I'm aware, they have made strides with the current Cabinet to reconcile relations. I should also note that Europeia doesn't describe themselves as imperialists.

I'd be happy to answer any more questions you have for me in my own campaign thread.

In the meantime, could you attempt to address the criticism of your agenda? You are clearly gifted at deflecting questions. But there are serious flaws in your agenda and you seem to be avoiding addressing them.
#56

(03-22-2015, 01:40 PM)Sandaoguo Wrote: In the meantime, could you attempt to address the criticism of your agenda? You are clearly gifted at deflecting questions. But there are serious flaws in your agenda and you seem to be avoiding addressing them.

I don't see the serious flaws, Glen, I only see speculation on your part. Speculation and a determined viewpoint that, no matter what, TSP can never, ever have both Defender friends and Imperialist friends at the same time, that we must choose, and we must choose Defender.

Well, I'm not about choosing a side, I'm about representing The South Pacific and what the people of this region want, and the people do not want that.

They are proving it with their votes.
#57

(03-22-2015, 12:59 PM)HEM Wrote: What I've read here is a thoughtful platform that will move us away from the "Glen-Rhodes lethargy" that boldly proclaimed "we are not good enough to have an active MoFA". I am eager to cast my vote for Wolf in this election. I am also disappointed in Escades's hackjob campaign that seeks to discredit a qualified candidate. We are all citizens, no? We all have the right to seek public office, aren't I correct? There are not different levels of citizenship that confer different rights. We all have the right to seek public office, and I am damn glad that Wolf is.

What are you speaking to specifically, HEM?

(Also note HEM likes to yell at me, always)

Escade

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#58

(03-22-2015, 01:40 PM)Sandaoguo Wrote: The Imperialist sphere is led by a handful of people in this game, as you well know. Europeia delivered their ultimatum at the behest of those players, because they were being pressured. Those players -- and you can identify them simply by looking at the TNI/UIAF leadership -- like to control their allies' foreign affairs. They did it to TSP, and they will certainly want to do so again if, for some awful reason, our next MoFA wants to court them as allies and the rest of the Cabinet goes along with it.

Europeia certainly didn't behave like a good ally by caving into pressure like that. As far as I'm aware, they have made strides with the current Cabinet to reconcile relations. I should also note that Europeia doesn't describe themselves as imperialists.

I'd be happy to answer any more questions you have for me in my own campaign thread.

In the meantime, could you attempt to address the criticism of your agenda? You are clearly gifted at deflecting questions. But there are serious flaws in your agenda and you seem to be avoiding addressing them.

LOL

You literally have no clue what you are talking about.
Formerly Relevant, Currently Former.
#59

(03-22-2015, 01:56 PM)Escade Wrote:
(03-22-2015, 12:59 PM)HEM Wrote: What I've read here is a thoughtful platform that will move us away from the "Glen-Rhodes lethargy" that boldly proclaimed "we are not good enough to have an active MoFA". I am eager to cast my vote for Wolf in this election. I am also disappointed in Escades's hackjob campaign that seeks to discredit a qualified candidate. We are all citizens, no? We all have the right to seek public office, aren't I correct? There are not different levels of citizenship that confer different rights. We all have the right to seek public office, and I am damn glad that Wolf is.

What are you speaking  to specifically, HEM?

(Also note HEM likes to yell at me, always)

Pointing out that you sent out a negative and divisive anti-Wolf telegram is yelling at you??
Formerly Relevant, Currently Former.
#60

(03-22-2015, 01:54 PM)Wolf Wrote: Speculation and a determined viewpoint that, no matter what, TSP can never, ever have both Defender friends and Imperialist friends at the same time, that we must choose, and we must choose Defender.

On the contrary. Prior to Glen becoming Foreign Minister we only had Independent and Imperialist allies. It was under his tenure that we reached out to Defender regions and balanced our set of alliances. His actions show beyond a shadow of doubt that he was very much committed to reaching out to all sides of the aisle. Having served with him almost without interruption since August 2013, I can say he never let his personal views determine his professional performance as Minister.
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