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[FAILED] Security Council Emeriti - Tsunamy - 04-02-2018

Dear fellow legislators:

For some time now, the CRS has had an issue when former members have a large influence and endorsements in-game but have resigned the their positions or have been removed for not meeting the requirements.

As such, I'd like to suggest the following addition to the Charter:
 
Quote:IX. THE COUNCIL ON REGIONAL SECURITY

Members Emeriti

14. Members who have previously held a seat on the Council on Regional Security will be available for the status of "Member Emeritus."

15. With the approval of the remaining council members, a nation designated as a member emeritus will be allowed to hold endorsements beyond the prescribed endorsement cap and may be given powers during a state of emergency.

16. A member emeritus shall not be considered a formal part of the Council on Regional Security, will have no access to private information and will not have a vote regarding council decisions.

17. At any time the council may vote to remove the status of members emeriti by a simple majority vote.

I think this is pretty straight forward, but welcome any questions or comments we might have.


Security Council Emeriti - Kris Kringle - 04-02-2018

Is there anything preventing the CSS from setting staggered caps?


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RE: Security Council Emeriti - Tsunamy - 04-02-2018

(04-02-2018, 10:25 AM)Kris Kringle Wrote: Is there anything preventing the CSS from setting staggered caps?


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I haven't consulted the law, but I believe we could create whatever caps we like. Although, I'm not sure we could create caps for individual people. 

I'm also not sure we'd want to act a retiring player to do more work to stay with particular caps.


Security Council Emeriti - Kris Kringle - 04-02-2018

If we're talking about a retiring user who won't even be able to keep within certain endorsement margins, do we really want to rely on them for coup fighting?


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RE: Security Council Emeriti - Tsunamy - 04-02-2018

(04-02-2018, 10:41 AM)Kris Kringle Wrote: If we're talking about a retiring user who won't even be able to keep within certain endorsement margins, do we really want to rely on them for coup fighting?


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We're not relying on them; we're just not forcing them out.


RE: Security Council Emeriti - sandaoguo - 04-02-2018

“Proscribed” -> “prescribed” Tounge

I think it would be nice to have this status as a congratulatory title, but it will also help if we could keep those influence powerhouses. So I fully support the idea.


RE: Security Council Emeriti - Farengeto - 04-02-2018

I am opposed to this change.

Firstly, there is nothing requiring us to ban or even take action against a nation above the cap. We have full discretion to change and choose how to enforce the cap, we can even set multiple tiers if we want. There are no legal objections to just leaving DM as is and let his endos decay.

Secondly, as mentioned since he will be almost entirely inactive his nation will offer little value in a coup. At best, assuming his endorsements haven't decayed by the time a coup happens, he will be an influence sink to banject that might not even have been around to help in the first place.


Security Council Emeriti - Kris Kringle - 04-02-2018

(04-02-2018, 10:48 AM)Tsunamy Wrote:
(04-02-2018, 10:41 AM)Kris Kringle Wrote: If we're talking about a retiring user who won't even be able to keep within certain endorsement margins, do we really want to rely on them for coup fighting?


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We're not relying on them; we're just not forcing them out.

Who's forcing anyone out, though?


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RE: Security Council Emeriti - Tsunamy - 04-02-2018

(04-02-2018, 10:54 AM)Kris Kringle Wrote:
(04-02-2018, 10:48 AM)Tsunamy Wrote:
(04-02-2018, 10:41 AM)Kris Kringle Wrote: If we're talking about a retiring user who won't even be able to keep within certain endorsement margins, do we really want to rely on them for coup fighting?


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We're not relying on them; we're just not forcing them out.

Who's forcing anyone out, though?


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Forcing them to drop endos, which, likely, would require leaving the region for an update.


RE: Security Council Emeriti - Rebeltopia - 04-02-2018

Im with Far on this. Its not illegal for any nation to be above the cap, so long as the CRS deems them allowed to be above the cap. Kinda pointless to put this into law if there's no law stopping them from doing this anyway.