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RE: [PROPOSAL] CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT - §IV (CREATION OF A PARLIAMENTARIAN) - Jay Coop - 11-15-2020

Just because a few legislators agreed to something over Discord does not equate to having some sort of consensus. There are other legislators like myself who've been preoccupied with other matters to not catch these things over Discord. The fact that three legislators are questioning the utility of this proposal here on the forum is evidence that no such consensus exists.


RE: [PROPOSAL] CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT - §IV (CREATION OF A PARLIAMENTARIAN) - Bleakfoot - 11-16-2020

I don't see the need. I think most legislators are capable of construing the potential impacts of a bill for themselves. If the Chair needs someone to advise them on the rules, they can appoint someone, either on a permanent or ad-hoc basis. And literally any legislator can 'suggest edits and clarifications to existing legislation.'

This feels like creating another election for the sake of having one.


RE: [PROPOSAL] CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT - §IV (CREATION OF A PARLIAMENTARIAN) - Kris Kringle - 11-16-2020

A deputy is not a patronage post. If such a practice has developed then it should stop now. A deputy assists the principal in the discharge of their duties and should be every bit as qualified as the position demands.


RE: [PROPOSAL] CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT - §IV (CREATION OF A PARLIAMENTARIAN) - Delegate Vanderpool - 11-16-2020

(11-15-2020, 11:42 PM)Jay Coop Wrote: Just because a few legislators agreed to something over Discord does not equate to having some sort of consensus. There are other legislators like myself who've been preoccupied with other matters to not catch these things over Discord. The fact that three legislators are questioning the utility of this proposal here on the forum is evidence that no such consensus exists.

Be that as it may.


RE: [PROPOSAL] CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT - §IV (CREATION OF A PARLIAMENTARIAN) - Delegate Vanderpool - 11-16-2020

(11-16-2020, 09:42 AM)Kris Kringle Wrote: A deputy is not a patronage post. If such a practice has developed then it should stop now. A deputy assists the principal in the discharge of their duties and should be every bit as qualified as the position demands.

In your opinion.


RE: [PROPOSAL] CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT - §IV (CREATION OF A PARLIAMENTARIAN) - Penguin - 11-16-2020

Please quote the relevant conversation from discord here so that all of us can read it.  


Agreeing with Kris - I am not sure whom you are referring to in terms of "special treatment" but that isn't the case. Deputies have been appointed by the Minister or Chair for ages and unless I am grossly mistaken, there hasn't been any issues.


RE: [PROPOSAL] CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT - §IV (CREATION OF A PARLIAMENTARIAN) - Purple Hyacinth - 11-16-2020

(11-16-2020, 01:30 PM)Penguin Wrote: Please quote the relevant conversation from discord here so that all of us can read it.
This is the link to that conversation if you want to read it on Discord.



RE: [PROPOSAL] CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT - §IV (CREATION OF A PARLIAMENTARIAN) - Kris Kringle - 11-16-2020

(11-16-2020, 12:42 PM)Delegate Vanderpool Wrote: Be that as it may.

(11-16-2020, 12:43 PM)Delegate Vanderpool Wrote: In your opinion.

To be honest I find this attitude quite offputting. If that's how the rest of this debate is going to go we might as well motion, second and get over with the vote.


RE: [PROPOSAL] CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT - §IV (CREATION OF A PARLIAMENTARIAN) - Belschaft - 11-16-2020

(11-16-2020, 03:09 PM)Kris Kringle Wrote:
(11-16-2020, 12:42 PM)Delegate Vanderpool Wrote: Be that as it may.
 
(11-16-2020, 12:43 PM)Delegate Vanderpool Wrote: In your opinion.

To be honest I find this attitude quite offputting. If that's how the rest of this debate is going to go we might as well motion, second and get over with the vote.

It's always a sign of great things to come when someone who joined the Assembly a month ago acts in a manner like this.


RE: [PROPOSAL] CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT - §IV (CREATION OF A PARLIAMENTARIAN) - Damination - 11-16-2020

(11-16-2020, 03:59 PM)Belschaft Wrote:
(11-16-2020, 03:09 PM)Kris Kringle Wrote:
(11-16-2020, 12:42 PM)Delegate Vanderpool Wrote: Be that as it may.
 
(11-16-2020, 12:43 PM)Delegate Vanderpool Wrote: In your opinion.

To be honest I find this attitude quite offputting. If that's how the rest of this debate is going to go we might as well motion, second and get over with the vote.

It's always a sign of great things to come when someone who joined the Assembly a month ago acts in a manner like this.

You're right, but, just ignore it. Not really necessary to reply like that. Kris started off right, but the rest of it is just passive aggressive nonsense.

Vandy, you shouldn't be curt and give zero substance replies because others disagree with you or dislike the proposal/discussion. If you don't like it, ignore it or actually engage in debate.