Abolish The Great Council |
Yes, I said that!
After some talk in the #legislators-lounge on Discord, I found out something...weird. Well, a lot of stuff we found, but I'm talking about the Great Council. The Great Council does...nothing. Why have a Great Council convene if you can just alter the laws of the Charter through the Assembly? Seems a bit...useless to me. The Great Council is...silly! Why have a special council potentially do something once per year, when we can always do it in a different body? So again, why have this special Council when you can do everything through the Assembly? Comments encouraged. Oh- and to clarify. This would give room for the current GC to end, and after that, we're done. Quote: maluhia
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(08-25-2022, 10:37 PM)The Lile Ulie Islands Wrote: Why have a Great Council convene every year if you can just alter the laws of the Charter through the Assembly? You are misreading the law. There is no requirement that a Great Council should be held every year, the requirement is that a Great Council can't be held more than once a year. Those are two very different things. Former Delegate of the South Pacific
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What are you talking about? I thought you were talking about moving to end the current Great Council, not abolish them altogether.
ProfessorHenn
Legislator (08-25-2022, 10:54 PM)ProfessorHenn Wrote: What are you talking about? I thought you were talking about moving to end the current Great Council, not abolish them altogether. Well, I'm talking about abolishing the Great Council. As listed in the OP, it makes no sense to have one when you can do the regular affairs the Great Council can do through the Assembly, at any point in time, while the Great Council is for one specific point in time. I would like to see the Council ended promptly too. maluhia
minister of culture ambassador to lazarus roleplayer (08-25-2022, 10:54 PM)ProfessorHenn Wrote: What are you talking about? I thought you were talking about moving to end the current Great Council, not abolish them altogether. Well, I'm talking about abolishing the Great Council. As listed in the OP, it makes no sense to have one when you can do the regular affairs the Great Council can do through the Assembly, at any point in time, while the Great Council is for one specific point in time. I would like to see the Council ended promptly too. maluhia
minister of culture ambassador to lazarus roleplayer (08-25-2022, 10:49 PM)Kris Kringle Wrote:(08-25-2022, 10:37 PM)The Lile Ulie Islands Wrote: Why have a Great Council convene every year if you can just alter the laws of the Charter through the Assembly? OP has been altered. maluhia
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(08-25-2022, 11:04 PM)The Lile Ulie Islands Wrote:(08-25-2022, 10:54 PM)ProfessorHenn Wrote: What are you talking about? I thought you were talking about moving to end the current Great Council, not abolish them altogether. To end the Great Council, you'd have to move to end general debate. Great Council Convening Resolution of 2022 Wrote:5e. A motion to end general debate may be called no sooner than four weeks after of the convening of the Great Council. Upon recognition of the motion by the Chair or Deputy Chair, the motion shall be brought to vote for five days and adopted in favor by three-fifths of the Great Council. No new proposals may be submitted once the motion is recognized, unless and until the motion shall be rejected by the Great Council. One day following adoption, all outstanding proposals will be brought to vote for five days, unless retracted by the original proposer prior to voting starting, and adopted according to Article XIV, Section 5.
ProfessorHenn
Legislator (08-25-2022, 11:11 PM)ProfessorHenn Wrote:(08-25-2022, 11:04 PM)The Lile Ulie Islands Wrote:(08-25-2022, 10:54 PM)ProfessorHenn Wrote: What are you talking about? I thought you were talking about moving to end the current Great Council, not abolish them altogether. I think we are misunderstanding each other! I am saying abolish the Great Council in future years, so that would mean getting rid of the gameside poll and Assembly vote on convening the council. maluhia
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We already voted to hold a Great Council (requiring a three-fifths majority vote in the Assembly) in spite of the objections you already cited. It would be silly to abolish it now for those reasons, especially given new proposals we have seen.
Republic of Lansoon (Pacifica)
(08-26-2022, 12:23 PM)Comfed Wrote: We already voted to hold a Great Council (requiring a three-fifths majority vote in the Assembly) in spite of the objections you already cited. It would be silly to abolish it now for those reasons, especially given new proposals we have seen. If this bill is passed, it would ensure that this Great Council would be able to finish, and after concluding, the Council shall be "archived" until relived by an Legislator who desires for it to return. maluhia
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