(04-03-2017, 08:44 PM)Escade Wrote: We have had discussions about CAIN here -> http://tspforums.xyz/thread-4804.html

We never got around to voting on whether to stay on or not.

Perhaps we can restart the discussion here.  What are your thoughts on the new draft? What are your thoughts on working with CAIN as an ally and a member or only as an ally but not a member?

I think it would be better for us to remain in CAIN and work with the other signatories, particularly Europeia, to fix it and get it running smoothly. For me, the biggest reason to stay in is because CAIN isn't asking us to do anything we wouldn't already be doing -- TSP has engaged in anti-fascist operations for years -- and our ally, Europeia, has a strong stake in CAIN's success. Withdrawing could just further strain relations with Europeia that have already been strained in recent years. Conversely, remaining in CAIN and working with Europeia and others to improve it could improve our relations with Europeia as well as opening the door to new friends and allies. It is a great opportunity to pursue common ground between regions that otherwise wouldn't have much in common.

There really isn't anything about CAIN that has been detrimental to TSP. It hasn't exactly been functional, but that hasn't been hurting TSP or our image, and working to improve CAIN can only help us. I don't see much downside to remaining in CAIN and working to improve it.

This is not to say that there aren't problems with CAIN. There are. But CAIN has no problems that can't be fixed by bright people here and elsewhere putting real effort into fixing those problems. It would be better for our diplomatic standing for TSP to be involved in fixing CAIN than for TSP to withdraw.