(07-11-2022, 12:48 PM)sandaoguo Wrote: It’s not an issue of the CRS not being there to respond to your inquiry, but rather the CRS not wanting to, in all honesty. The core issue is a demand for the CRS to care about RMB moderation, which nobody except Penguin does (and she only started to when she became Delegate, since that’s part of the Delegate’s job). The CRS is composed mostly of long-time government officials, whose long service makes them trustworthy to wield tremendous power in a time of crisis. It’s not filled will people who frequent the RMB. And when we caved and added people who *were* RMBers, they either fizzled out of activity altogether or their views realigned with the the rest of the group (eg PS2). Or in the most egregious case, betrayed the Coalition entirely. The CRS just isn’t the body you go to about RMB issues, it’s not in our purview or area of interest at all.

I think this paragraph takes the broader issue (potential CRS reform due to poor communication/inaction) and makes it about a specific issue. The idea of CRS reform would have to be thought of in the context of more than just one issue.

(07-11-2022, 12:48 PM)sandaoguo Wrote: To address that issue, we need to look at RMB moderation itself, not the ancillary things like whether or not the LC get BC powers and how many. There are a lot of issues with how we approach it:
- Why is it being handled by elected officials? The history of the LC includes a long pattern of people poorly suited to be mods, who we would never choose to be mods if they applied for it.
- Are the RMB rules actually good? Often what’s deemed as spam vs not spam is just what any particular LCer finds slightly annoying. Lots of suppression happens that’s not actually necessary, or it’s not consistently applied at all. Overburdened moderation because of this doesn’t constitute a problem for anybody else. The LC makes it bed, they have to lie in it. They should adjust policies based on the resources they have, not vice versa.
- What is the proper role of the Delegate in RMB moderation? What are the consequences for failing to deliver?
- Are requests being made that actually need to be lodged to NS mods, rather than RMB mods? Is there an emergency need to shove a site rule breaker to TRR’s RMB and make it their problem, or can we wait for NS mods to ban them and just encourage people to ignore trolls?
- Given that the RMB will never be a high quality/high engagement venue (it’s low quality/high engagement), is it worth heavily moderating in the first place? Is it a wise use of limited resources? This ties back to “are the rules good?”

When it comes to discussing RMB governance ideas/reform, I agree that all of these questions are important.

(07-11-2022, 01:10 PM)Jagged Fel Wrote: The MoE's outreach team should have a real impact (I've never seen it) by emphasizing communication with the nations of the region.

This issue is better addressed by lobbying the Minister of Engagement around the issue (or endeavoring to join their staff). Constitutional reform is intended to address structural factors, not just activity ebbs and flows in specific regions.