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[OOC] Searching for military equipment vendors/contracts
#1

I am seeking vendors for Pattevere's military equipment, especially the big ticket items such as fighter jets, main battle tanks, and destroyers. Commodities I have for trade are listed here. Annual contracts or one-time orders work too.

BUDGET
As of December 2020, military spending is DS^58.2 billion (derrn stones), 5.2% of GDP. When calculating the exchange rate, spending is UPD$14.2 billion. UPD$4.26 billion is the available purchasing power for equipment every year with flexibility to stretch to UPD$6 billion if absolutely necessary.

 


NUMBERS AND EQUIPMENT

Patteverian Ground Forces (the Army)
Total Number Serving: 86,090
Active Duty Total: 61,120
Reserves Total: 24,970
3,800 unarmored vehicles (up to 5 ton trucks, including fuelers), 2,300 light-armored fighting vehicles, 350 main battle tanks, 85 artillery batteries, 30 surface-to-air missile defense systems (not including shoulder-launched)

Patteverian Aeronaval Fleet (the Navy, Air Force, and Coast Guard)
Total Number Serving: 26,354
Active Duty Total: 21,720
Reserves Total: 4,640
4 frigates, 9 destroyers, 45 security/patrol ships, 125 fighter-bomber aircraft, 80 helicopters (35 attack, 45 light), 50 transports, 3 aerial fuelers

 


NEEDS

Strictly imported at this time:
  • All fighter jets and helicopters
  • All Navy frigates and destroyers
  • Air and missile defense systems and ammunition
  • Main battle tanks

Can make these, but will listen to offers:
  • Handheld and mounted infantry weapons (service rifle/pistol, shoulder launched munitions, grenades, high caliber weapons)
  • Small reconnaissance jets
  • Unarmored vehicles
  • Light-armored fighting vehicles
  • Small Navy and Coast Guard ships

Not accepting offers at this time:
  • Military clothing 
  • Ballistic armor, plates, and helmets

I might be forgetting something, feel free to bring up something relevant even if its not on the list.
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#2

Some Esfalsan exports are listed here, if any strike your fancy. I know that thread has an order form but if you want to just discuss any purchases here, that works as well. And the prices are... pretty negotiable, if you want to do a bulk discount or something, I think it'd be pretty realistic so we can discuss. Those are the fighter/bomber/tank/vehicle designs that Esfalsa has currently approved for export. 

Esfalsan Navy ships are typically not for export but older ship designs may be approved on a case-by-case basis. I'll be honest and say I haven't figured out all the details yet, but you can find a list of Esfalsan Navy ships here. Anything older than 2010 would probably get approved, considering (from your other thread on trade exports/imports) that Pattevere is a socialist democracy. Realistically, it would probably take a little bit of wiffle-waffling by the Esfalsan government, though that would all be historical anyway.

As for missile systems/ammunition, I sort of envisioned Esfalsa producing its own in that regard but never actually fleshed out the details. I do have a mental note that they're designed to complement Esfalsan vehicle/ship designs. If you do happen to find anything from Esfalsa a good fit, we could probably work the ammunition for them in as part of the deal.

Anyway, that's all that comes to my mind from Esfalsa. Feel free to pick and choose whichever things (if any Tounge) would fit well with Pattevere.
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Like Esfalsa, I made a similar thread listing the military equipment of my three nations which you can find here where you can also give in the years of your order. However, the socialism might prove a problem for the Sallodesian and Stoinian governments. The main factor would be how revolutionary the country's ideology would be.
Myria on the other hand isn't as picky and is more than happy to provide ships for nearly everyone. As long as you don't have a history of genociding people or abuse human rights.
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#4

We can supply you with naval vessels and any naval equipments
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#5

We have a catalogue

https://tspforums.xyz/thread-9969.html
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#6

Point Rain armories, Termina, would be happy to supply main battle tanks, fighters, bombers, naval vessels, relevant munitions and mobile missile systems to Pattevere. Point rain armories would also be willing to sell nuclear warheads if Pattevere seeks nuclear capabilities
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#7

Emerald Star Military and Emerald Transportation Military would be willing to to produce Military Equipment for Pattevere. 
 
as for Naval ships, any Design from 1980-2000 would be available and produced at New Emeraldian Shipyards
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#8

Thanks for all the responses so far. I ask that you provide specific pieces of equipment so I can browse and have pertinent information if I'd like to purchase. I'm definitely still on the lookout.

Please reference this to get a general idea of what Pattevere is working with at the present time.

For just a very brief rundown: our industrialization didn't occur until the 1890's, with the introduction of steam engines and railways. Up until 1960, companies would compete for the contract to product Pattevere's military equipment. Then the socialist takeover of arms manufacturing happened, resulting in the creation of the Pattevere State Arms Combine "P-SAC", which consisted of all members of the arms industry bought out by the government (essentially, join or be shut down). Any companies it partnered with post-1960 I imagine to be non-descript arms contractors that always exist in the world. However, if anyone would like to RP that it was one of their companies that P-SAC partnered with at that time, by all means, let me know and we can discuss it.

Now to the orders...
 
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Pattevere wishes to place an order for 30 x Pantheon Aerospace Pa-992F fighters from Esfalsa, with an initial order year of 2010, with the final unit received in 2016.

UPD$4.26 billion - Total military acquisitions budget per year (for ease of RP, not taking inflation or small budget adjustments into account)
UPD$72.5 million - Price per unit (for ease of RP, not taking inflation or shipping into account)

Final unit date is assuming 5 units per year. Let me know if this needs adjustment. Esfalsa would receive half for each unit at the start of production, and the remaining half upon successful delivery.
 
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Pattevere wishes to place an order for 45 x Sallocopter Group SG/UH-62 Black Shrike Utility Helicopters from Sallodesia, with an initial order year of 1990, with the final unit received in 1995.

UPD$4.26 billion - Total military acquisitions budget per year (for ease of RP, not taking inflation or small budget adjustments into account)
UPD$12.8 million - Price per unit (for ease of RP, not taking inflation or shipping into account)

Final unit date is assuming 10 units per year. Let me know if this needs adjustment. Sallodesia would receive half for each unit at the start of production, and the remaining half upon successful delivery.

Pattevere wishes to place an order for 20 x Montgomery-Ashton Heavy Armaments Inc. MAHAI TMV/SPAAA-T979 Self-Propelled Anti-Aircraft Artillery from Sallodesia, with an initial order year of 2016, with the final unit received in 2017.

UPD$4.26 billion - Total military acquisitions budget per year (for ease of RP, not taking inflation or small budget adjustments into account)
UPD$3.7 million - Price per unit (for ease of RP, not taking inflation or shipping into account)

Final unit date is assuming half of the total order per year. Let me know if this needs adjustment. Sallodesia would receive half for each unit at the start of production, and the remaining half upon successful delivery.

Pattevere wishes to place an order for 1,000 x Falx Armory FA/APC TF-464 Leul Armoured Personnel Carrier from Stoinia, with an initial order year of 2007, with the final unit received in 2017.

UPD$4.26 billion - Total military acquisitions budget per year (for ease of RP, not taking inflation or small budget adjustments into account)
UPD$280,000 - Price per unit (for ease of RP, not taking inflation or shipping into account)

Final unit date is assuming 100 units per year. Let me know if this needs adjustment. Stoinia would receive half for each unit at the start of production, and the remaining half upon successful delivery.

Pattevere wishes to place an order for 1 x Hilu-Saab United Shipyards HSUB Philosir-Class Battleship from Myria, with an initial order year of 2005, with the unit being received in 2008.

UPD$4.26 billion - Total military acquisitions budget per year (for ease of RP, not taking inflation or small budget adjustments into account)
UPD$2.6 billion - Price per unit (for ease of RP, not taking inflation or shipping into account)

Myria would receive half of the unit cost at the start of production, and the remaining half upon successful delivery.
 
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Pattevere wishes to place an order for 3 x Aeronaughtica Relief Class Fuel Craft from Izaakia, with an initial order year of 1998, with the final unit received in 2001.

UPD$4.26 billion - Total military acquisitions budget per year (for ease of RP, not taking inflation or small budget adjustments into account)
UPD$400 million - Price per unit (for ease of RP, not taking inflation or shipping into account)

Final unit date is assuming 1 unit per year. Let me know if this needs adjustment. Izaakia would receive half for each unit at the start of production, and the remaining half upon successful delivery.
 
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If you accept the terms of your deal, I will add the item in question to my military thread with the corresponding information. Thanks for helping make Pattevere great.
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(01-09-2022, 10:40 PM)patteverianstag Wrote: [...]
If you accept the terms of your deal, I will add the item in question to my military thread with the corresponding information. Thanks for helping make Pattevere great.

Just confirming the purchase from Esfalsa seems fine.
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(01-09-2022, 10:40 PM)patteverianstag Wrote: Pattevere wishes to place an order for 45 x Sallocopter Group SG/UH-62 Black Shrike Utility Helicopters from Sallodesia, with an initial order year of 1990, with the final unit received in 1995.

UPD$4.26 billion - Total military acquisitions budget per year (for ease of RP, not taking inflation or small budget adjustments into account)
UPD$12.8 million - Price per unit (for ease of RP, not taking inflation or shipping into account)

Final unit date is assuming 10 units per year. Let me know if this needs adjustment. Sallodesia would receive half for each unit at the start of production, and the remaining half upon successful delivery.

Pattevere wishes to place an order for 20 x Montgomery-Ashton Heavy Armaments Inc. MAHAI TMV/SPAAA-T979 Self-Propelled Anti-Aircraft Artillery from Sallodesia, with an initial order year of 2016, with the final unit received in 2017.

UPD$4.26 billion - Total military acquisitions budget per year (for ease of RP, not taking inflation or small budget adjustments into account)
UPD$3.7 million - Price per unit (for ease of RP, not taking inflation or shipping into account)

Final unit date is assuming half of the total order per year. Let me know if this needs adjustment. Sallodesia would receive half for each unit at the start of production, and the remaining half upon successful delivery.

Pattevere wishes to place an order for 1,000 x Falx Armory FA/APC TF-464 Leul Armoured Personnel Carrier from Stoinia, with an initial order year of 2007, with the final unit received in 2017.

UPD$4.26 billion - Total military acquisitions budget per year (for ease of RP, not taking inflation or small budget adjustments into account)
UPD$280,000 - Price per unit (for ease of RP, not taking inflation or shipping into account)

Final unit date is assuming 100 units per year. Let me know if this needs adjustment. Stoinia would receive half for each unit at the start of production, and the remaining half upon successful delivery.

Pattevere wishes to place an order for 1 x Hilu-Saab United Shipyards HSUB Philosir-Class Battleship from Myria, with an initial order year of 2005, with the unit being received in 2008.

UPD$4.26 billion - Total military acquisitions budget per year (for ease of RP, not taking inflation or small budget adjustments into account)
UPD$2.6 billion - Price per unit (for ease of RP, not taking inflation or shipping into account)

Myria would receive half of the unit cost at the start of production, and the remaining half upon successful delivery.

Consider the orders accepted and delivered. Though The Utility Helicopters could all be delivered by 1991.
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