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Prohibited Group Discussion: The Empire
#21

(04-14-2015, 07:18 PM)Unibot Wrote:
Quote:I'm sick of being one of the few people who can think critically here. If you want to act like our hair is on fire, please, by all fucking means. Until then, I'm going to point out when we're attempting to set ridiculous rules for something that can never be substantiated.

Neither Dali, nor Neenee deny membership in The Empire. Your hair must be on fire, Tsu.

You've clearly misunderstood my use of the phrase.
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#22

(04-14-2015, 07:03 PM)Tsunamy Wrote:
(04-14-2015, 07:01 PM)Sandaoguo Wrote: Have any of them ever renounced the Empire, Tsu? No. Just because The Empire doesn't have a forum and laws doesn't mean it's not a recognizable group. You are probably alone in GCR delegates on thinking that.

I'm sick of being one of the few people who can think critically here. If you want to act like our hair is on fire, please, by all fucking means. Until then, I'm going to point out when we're attempting to set ridiculous rules for something that can never be substantiated.


Or, perhaps I am listening to those who have dealt with The Empire and I'm paying attention to NS history. I'm not running around like my hair is on fire. I'm advocating that we don't allow ourselves to get to that point by being weak on security and pretending like friendliness equals trustworthiness.
#23

(04-14-2015, 07:25 PM)Unibot Wrote: Well... that's the other niggle. Even if they renounce their membership, it'd just be a ploy anyways. Tounge They really ought to all be banned individually as security threats.

So basically even if they renounce membership in the Group, not good enough for Unibot. Should be banned for life, even while he grants people like Milo parole for their actual convinced crimes against The South Pacific.

Once Empire Scum, always Empire Scum, amirite?
#24

Renounced members, too? Wow, that sure is a lot of people. I heard that Empire was like a fashion accessory for some before it became serial.

Good to know that people who have since given great contributions to regions are unwelcome because of a one-time affiliation.

It's really a shame to hear that such close-mindedness is rampant among TSP. Exclusivity is a policy that is quite unattractive.

Repelling, too. Nee and Dali still have yet to coup TEP again. Is there a countdown, do you suppose? Could it be that a good government with a strong direction is a target, more so than a bad government leading a region down the wrong road?

And what does the choice of the core members have to do with people who joined for the separate governments?

You really are running around like your hair is on fire.
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#25

[emoji19] Y'all latchin on to one tongue-in-cheek comment by Unibot, despite the numerous posts elsewhere about how Article 7 works.

I don't care if TEP trusts The Empire. Was Osiris a bad region in need of The Empire's wise and generous ruling? If they want to coup TSP, will you find it okay because, hey, we're a weak region going down the wrong road? Who decides what the wrong road is?

The fact that you talk like that about The Empire is proof that they're not trustworthy.

Neenee is a red flag in this game. Just because you're friends with people in The Empire doesn't mean they're trustworthy. This is a game and Neenee, Dali, et al believe that what they do and couping is all a healthy part of it. They perform a service to make regions "more active," when they deem that a region isn't good enough.
#26

I'm not all that bothered about Dali and Nee. I'm disturbed by the rampant and over-dramatic concept of "guilt by association."
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<@Zeorus> Xoriet is my favorite fendascum <3
#27

I'm concerned that Xoriet thinks we should just ignore Dali and Neenee's extensive history of being troublemakers and security threats, because TEP is friends with them and they haven't couped there yet. *rolls his eyes*

Friendly =/= Trustworthy
#28

(04-14-2015, 11:57 PM)Unibot Wrote: I'm concerned that Xoriet thinks we should just ignore Dali and Neenee's extensive history of being troublemakers and security threats, because TEP is friends with them and they haven't couped there yet. *rolls his eyes*

Friendly =/= Trustworthy

That is not what I said, dearest Unibot. Dali and Nee are not peripheral Empire, they are The Empire. Did you miss the part where I emphasized my concern? While I find the idea that they might coup TSP to be unlikely, the likelihood of anyone associated being a danger to all of you is the absurdity.

Blue Wolf, Yy4u, Westwind, Earth22, Kandarin, Todd McCloud, Naivetry, etc. Definitely out to get you all, like boogeymen. Right?
@MallRiva: Pants are like defenders: they stifle all the fun and no one actually wants them around at a party.

<@Zeorus> Xoriet is my favorite fendascum <3
#29

Article 7 doesn't prohibit former members and I wouldn't see the purpose of a security threat declaration against many of those listed. As you said: Dali and Nee are The Empire.
#30

Article 7 only authorises action against current members.
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