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The whole purpose of the CSS was to have long time players with connections and knowledge of the game determine potential security risks. Intel is all part of that. This would just be creating overlap.
There's just something that doesn't sit right with me about this, even if it is infiltrating prohobited groups to see what they're up to in regards to TSP.
I understand the thought behind it, but I wouldn't be supporting it if more discussion comes around. Also, I've always attributed information to the MoFA. Like Glen said, it's old players with connections and who better than the MoFA to have connections? The CSS should keep there focus at home, imo. Better to have the group focused in one spot than in multiple.
The problem is when those old players leave and new players don't get their knowledge or experience.
Cynosurian Councillor of Brilliance
Fair point, but the alliances we have with other regions tends to make it so there will always be older players willing to help out.
Experience is of course built as much as it is passed on. For instance, arguably it can be said I don't have enough expertise for Foreign Affairs since I could still be considered green in the land outside TSP. But I still ask questions and I'm still building on the current experiences I already have. The beauty of NS is the diplomatic side. Keeping in contact with members of other communities and not being afraid to ask questions or voicing concers both at home and abroad. Many people have been more than happy to set me straight which I've been more than grateful for their help. Newer members always have the option to do the same, if they so choose.
Still, one can't deny the beauty of intelligence gathering. Again, take a look at what TNI's operation did for them. It was hugely useful for them.
Cynosurian Councillor of Brilliance
I agree with tsu, Feir and Glen.
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I wonder if we're not getting hung up on terminology here. What it sounds like to me is that Henn wants to create a spy agency to infiltrate potential enemies, correct?
*That* is different than what the CSS does and I wouldn't be completely against it. The CSS does everything on the up and up -- and has to due to the endorsement set up.
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(08-08-2015, 06:48 PM)ProfessorHenn Wrote: Eh. A good example of an Intel network would be TNI's operation they had. What TNI did was pretty cool, but in the history of NS it hasn't usually worked. It's basically a sleeper agent setup, which is notoriously difficult to pull off. The better type of intel, military wise, is spying on raiders or defenders. Of course, that comes with the risks of being caught and blacklisted. If we want intelligence agents, that's something we *can* do, but make sure you're actually good at it. Regions don't like it when they're spied on, and a region known for a lot of spying is always held in suspicion.
Yes, but when you're spying on a known enemy of the region, or a prohibited group of the region, it becomes less big of a deal when the region is discovered to be spying, as it can be justified. Now, assuming we were to spy on an ally, like TNP or Europeia, then yes, that would be a very bad thing.
With regards to what Darkstrait said, I do feel that a new and separate Intel organization would work, lest the Minister of said organization is appointed by the people we trust with security, I.E., the SPSF and the CSS. And we would have to include workaround clauses for Intel officers, like in the Prohibited Groups Article, where we would need to add a clause stating that Intel officers are exempt from the no membership rule. It's difficult to pull off, but it can be done, and it can be highly useful when another region might be trying to conduct an OBT against us, and we've caught it before it occurred. Do tell, that would be very good, no? The training of Intel Officers is a delicate process, however, it can be done, and it can be done well enough that not even ourselves would think they were a spy. Cynosurian Councillor of Brilliance
It would take a lot of work to organize, but I think it can be done, and done well.
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