And for reissue below.

Note that for this draft, I bumped down TRI from full to regional, since honestly, Vulturret's full of it anyway and he probably didn't even realize he wrote a confession for something he's most likely not even doing. Open to debate, though, of course.

It is no secret that the South Pacific has experienced a significant amount of internal turbulence this summer. That the previous Cabinet ended its term with only half its original membership is emblematic of that turbulence. It is in that context that early on in its term, the previous Cabinet released a set of proscriptions that, while well-intentioned, provided neither the kind of cogent reasonings that should be expected for any such action, nor were they entirely validated and therefore contained some errors. The cause of these errors have been laboriously expounded upon elsewhere and don’t need to be reiterated. We apologize for the errors, and are certain that due to the unique circumstances leading to the release of these proscriptions, such a situation will not happen again.

The proscriptions issued by former Prime Minister Farengeto on July 25, 2018 shall be rendered null and void, as per Article 3 Section 4 of the Proscription Act.

The individual known as McMannia shall henceforth be considered fully proscribed. McMannia is founder of the region H Y D R A, and their disdain for the South Pacific is no secret, especially to those South Pacificans that do not block recruitment telegrams. In August 2017, McMannia ordered their military to deploy to the South Pacific, attempting to unseat the legitimate Delegate Drugged Monkeys; this was deliberately done while the South Pacific Special Forces were deployed in Lazarus on the opposing side of H Y D R A. While this attempt did not succeed, it was quite close, with only a two endorsement gap at its lowest point. Later in that year, McMannia ordered Aav, an individual associated with his region (H Y D R A once more), to join the South Pacific under false pretenses for the purposes of stealing internal discussions. Aav has since been convicted of Espionage in HCCC1801. These two actions meet the criteria for hostility as per Article 1 of the Proscription Act, specifically Section 1 (overthrow of the government) together with Section 5 (military sabotage) for the former, and Section 3 (espionage) for the latter.

The region H Y D R A and its precedessor HYDRA Command (both colloquially known as “Hydra”), as well as any direct successor region also founded by McMannia, shall henceforth be considered fully proscribed. Hydra was the engine for McMannia’s attacks on the South Pacific, providing the troops for the attempt to unseat our Delegacy, and the region to which Aav belonged while they committed espionage. Hydra meets the same criteria of hostility as McMannia.

The individuals Funkadelia, Lamb Stone/Aleister, and Evil Wolf/Killer Kitty shall henceforth be considered fully proscribed. Their coup of the Celestial Union of Lazarus in Summer 2017, while the South Pacific was a treatied ally to the Celestial Union, constitutes hostility as per Section 1 (overthrow of the government of an ally). This proscription is reinforced (without meeting a definition of hostility as per the Proscription Act) by their treatment of Lazarus in the aftermath, particularly in March and April of 2018 where these individuals couped their own illegitimate government again, instituting a full dictatorship with regular senseless purges. Furthermore, particularly Funkadelia has been known to import and export voters dating back to at least 2016, both in Lazarus and even in the South Pacific itself, which on its own constitutes hostility as per Section 2 (unduly influencing elections or votes of the South Pacific or an ally).

Finally, the region The Ragerian Imperium shall be considered regionally proscribed. This region is a merger of several regions including the aforementioned H Y D R A and had included McMannia in high-level leadership position up until very recently; this continuity may, on its own, qualify for a determination of hostility just as Hydra is. Furthermore, on July 26, 2018, Emperor Vulturret openly admitted on the NationStates Gameplay forum that they had considered, if not outright ordered, intelligence missions into the South Pacific, constituting hostility missions as per Section 3 (espionage).

While not all evidence is linked here, and some of it is outright classified, these new proscriptions are checked and fulfil Article 3 Section 2’s reporting requirements. They will take effect immediately.

One glaring omission here is the proscription of Ever-Wandering Souls. This was overturned in the High Court of the South Pacific in HCRR1803. While the Court was right to criticize many aspects of the proscription as issued, we are shocked by the Court’s ruling that the evidence presented by the Cabinet’s counsel does not constitute hostility. Ever-Wandering Souls was, and continues to be, an antagonist to our region, and desires few things more than to see the Coalition violently overthrown in favor of a userite-led autocracy. Nonetheless, we cannot ignore the High Court's ruling, and so we have not reissued that particular proscription. Whether we will seek an appeal through the Court or pursue a change of legislation is still open, but we can promise that we will do whatever is in our power to ensure that neither this individual nor any of their agents can actually hurt the Coalition of the South Pacific, the eldest democracy in NationStates.

Signed,
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I might add “sincerely” before “apologize for those errors” in the first paragraph, just to be clear that we are...well, sincere.

While the Court was right to criticize many aspects of the proscription as issued, we are shocked by the Court’s ruling that the evidence presented by the Cabinet’s counsel does not constitute hostility.

I don’t think this sentence is necessary and would prefer to take it out— the paragraph runs just as well without it. I don’t believe it sends a good message to those who read this that in its reissuing statement, the cabinet publically expresses anger at the Court. Those of us who wish to can be upset at the court within the region for making a surprising decision, but we don’t need to use this statement to vent about it to the public. It creates needless tensions and detracts from the otherwise more powerful and responsible message.

Ever-Wandering Souls was, and continues to be, an antagonist to our region, and desires few things more than to see the Coalition violently overthrown in favor of a userite-led autocracy.

I would change “an antagonist” to “antagonistic”, just because labelling someone’s actions as bad seems a bit more to the point we want to make than labelling them as Public Enemy #1. It’s an extremely minor preference, though.

I strongly request that the word “userite” be replaced with a more meaningful, non-propagandized term. “An autocracy led by his fellows” or “a foreign-led autocracy” would both work.

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Other then a few grammatical errors and improper word/sentence structure choices that I will go fix now;
 

It is no secret that the South Pacific has experienced a significant amount of internal turbulence this summer. That the previous Cabinet ended its term with only half its original membership is emblematic of that turbulence. It is in that context that early on in its term, the previous Cabinet released a set of proscriptions that, while issued with good intentions, did not provide the kind of cogent reasoning that should be expected for any such action; nor were they entirely validated and therefore contained some errors. The cause of these errors have been laboriously expounded upon elsewhere and don’t need to be reiterated. We apologize for the errors, and are certain that due to the unique circumstances leading to the release of these proscriptions, such a situation will not happen again.

The proscriptions issued by former Prime Minister Farengeto on July 25, 2018 shall be rendered null and void, as per Article 3 Section 4 of the Proscription Act.

The individual known as McMannia shall henceforth be considered fully proscribed. McMannia is founder of the region H Y D R A and their disdain for the South Pacific is no secret; especially to those South Pacificans that do not block recruitment telegrams. In August 2017 McMannia ordered their military to deploy to the South Pacific, attempting to unseat the legitimate Delegate Drugged Monkeys; this was deliberately done while the South Pacific Special Forces were deployed in Lazarus on the opposing side of H Y D R A. While this attempt did not succeed it was quite close to doing so; with only a two endorsement gap at its lowest point. Later in that year McMannia ordered Aav, an individual associated with his region (H Y D R A once more), to join the South Pacific under false pretenses for the purposes of stealing internal discussions. Aav has since been convicted of Espionage in HCCC1801. These two actions meet the criteria for hostility as per Article 1 of the Proscription Act, specifically Section 1 (overthrow of the government) together with Section 5 (military sabotage) for the former, and Section 3 (espionage) for the latter.

The region H Y D R A and its predecessor HYDRA Command (both colloquially known as “Hydra”), as well as any direct successor region also founded by McMannia, shall henceforth be considered fully proscribed. Hydra was the engine for McMannia’s attacks on the South Pacific, providing the troops for the attempt to unseat our Delegacy, and the region to which Aav belonged while they committed espionage. Hydra meets the same criteria of hostility as McMannia.

The individuals Funkadelia, Lamb Stone/Aleister, and Evil Wolf/Killer Kitty shall henceforth be considered fully proscribed. Their coup of the Celestial Union of Lazarus in Summer 2017, while the South Pacific was a treatied ally to the Celestial Union, constitutes hostility as per Section 1 (overthrow of the government of an ally). This proscription is reinforced (without meeting a definition of hostility as per the Proscription Act) by their treatment of Lazarus in the aftermath, particularly in March and April of 2018 where these individuals couped their own illegitimate government again, instituting a full dictatorship with regular senseless purges. Furthermore; Funkadelia in particular has been known to import and export voters, dating back to at least 2016, both in Lazarus and even in the South Pacific itself. This act on its own constitutes hostility as per Section 2 (unduly influencing elections or votes of the South Pacific or an ally).

Finally, the region The Ragerian Imperium shall be considered regionally proscribed. This region is a merger of several regions including the aforementioned H Y D R A and had included McMannia in a high-level leadership position up until very recently; this continuity may, on its own, qualify for a determination of hostility equal to that of H Y D R A. Furthermore, on July 26, 2018, Emperor Vulturret openly admitted on the NationStates Gameplay forum that they had considered, if not outright ordered, intelligence missions into the South Pacific, constituting hostility missions as per Section 3 (espionage).

While not all evidence is linked here, some of it being outright classified, these new proscriptions are checked and fulfill Article 3 Section 2’s reporting requirements. They will take effect immediately.

One glaring omission here is the proscription of Ever-Wandering Souls. This was overturned in the High Court of the South Pacific in HCRR1803. Whether we will seek an appeal through the Court or pursue a change of legislation is still open but we can promise that we will do whatever is in our power to ensure that neither this individual nor any of their agents can actually hurt the Coalition of the South Pacific, the eldest democracy in NationStates.

Signed,
The Cabinet of The South Pacific

...I really like this draft and as such, approve of it.

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I might add “sincerely” before “apologize for those errors” in the first paragraph, just to be clear that we are...well, sincere.

That does make sense.

While the Court was right to criticize many aspects of the proscription as issued, we are shocked by the Court’s ruling that the evidence presented by the Cabinet’s counsel does not constitute hostility.

I don’t think this sentence is necessary and would prefer to take it out— the paragraph runs just as well without it. I don’t believe it sends a good message to those who read this that in its reissuing statement, the cabinet publically expresses anger at the Court. Those of us who wish to can be upset at the court within the region for making a surprising decision, but we don’t need to use this statement to vent about it to the public. It creates needless tensions and detracts from the otherwise more powerful and responsible message.

That's fair. I added that sentence for now to represent how I feel about it, though I realize we'd likely have to amend it depending on what you all think of the intelligence briefing. Would you prefer it completely gone, or would you be okay with a really mild version thereof?

Ever-Wandering Souls was, and continues to be, an antagonist to our region, and desires few things more than to see the Coalition violently overthrown in favor of a userite-led autocracy.

I would change “an antagonist” to “antagonistic”, just because labelling someone’s actions as bad seems a bit more to the point we want to make than labelling them as Public Enemy #1. It’s an extremely minor preference, though.

Works for me.

I strongly request that the word “userite” be replaced with a more meaningful, non-propagandized term. “An autocracy led by his fellows” or “a foreign-led autocracy” would both work.

That also works for me.

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That's fair. I added that sentence for now to represent how I feel about it, though I realize we'd likely have to amend it depending on what you all think of the intelligence briefing. Would you prefer it completely gone, or would you be okay with a really mild version thereof?

Personally I’d prefer it removed completely, but I realize I’m on the far end of the spectrum here and I’d have no real problem with saying that we were “surprised” or something like that instead.

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I support removing the sentence entirely aswell. I don’t think it is necessary to bring any personal opinions into this reissue.

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I know you all look forward to when I complete my grand quest ;P.

Official ‘Most Dedicated Raider’ in all of TSP. Look at me all evil and shtuff ;P

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I also support removing that sentence. I believe that our proscriptions should be as matter-of-fact as possible, without any opinions or bluster. Personally, I'd prefer the first two sentences of the proscription to be removed; it kinda feels like we're making excuses for the previous Cabinet. While these may be justified, I don't think they particularly belong in our proscription, though they won't stop me from supporting this.

Also, minor grammatical error in the first paragraph:
"The cause of these errors have been laboriously expounded upon elsewhere and don’t need to be reiterated."

Either "cause" should be changed to "causes" or "don't" should be changed to "doesn't".

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Actually, reading that last paragraph again, I'm not a big fan of significant parts of it. Regardless of our opinions on Souls and the court case, I don't think threats of future action and descriptions of what Souls has done is particularly relevant to this proscription. This proscription should simply contain an acknowledgement of the court ruling and a redaction of the previous Souls proscription. Our grievances against him and logic behind proscribing him should be left for a future proscription, if it is issued.

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Actually, reading that last paragraph again, I'm not a big fan of significant parts of it. Regardless of our opinions on Souls and the court case, I don't think threats of future action and descriptions of what Souls has done is particularly relevant to this proscription. This proscription should simply contain an acknowledgement of the court ruling and a redaction of the previous Souls proscription. Our grievances against him and logic behind proscribing him should be left for a future proscription, if it is issued.

Good point. I do think we have to at least mention it (or else it seems like we're ignoring the issue), but we could be very brief about it: "One glaring omission here is the proscription of Ever-Wandering Souls. The previous proscription of this individual was overturned in the High Court of the South Pacific in HCRR1803. With this in mind, we have not reissued that particular proscription."

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I would prefer that we at least state in some fashion that we the Cabinet don't think it's okay that he's not proscribed.

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