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[DISCUSSION] Detailing the Delegate's ceremonial duties
#11

I suggest that Medals be for civilian awards, while Orders are for military ones.
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IoU Honours Act
An Act authorizing the government of the South Pacific to confer decorations upon individuals as recognition of service to the region
 
1. Definitions

(1) Decorations are to be hereinafter known as the awards mentioned in this Act, which are the Friend of the Coalition Medal, the Distinguished Service Order and the Delegate's Award for Voluntary Service.

(2) Issuer is to be defined as the entity which awards a decoration. 

2. Friend of the Coalition Medal

(1) The Friend of the Coalition medal are to be awarded to foreign nationals who have made exceptional contributions to the betterment of the South Pacific and its standing in the world.

(2) The medal shall be awarded by the Delegate with the advice of the Prime Minister and Minister of Foreign Affairs.

(3) Recipients of the Friend of the Coalition medal are entitled to use the post-nominal letters "FC".

3. Distinguished Service Order

(1) Membership of the Distinguished Service Order are to be awarded to current or former members of the government and the military who have rendered extraordinary and exemplary service and conduct to the South Pacific.

(2) The two classes, which are equal in rank, of the Distinguished Service Order shall be Companion, for civilian members of the government, and Commander, for members of the military. 

(3) Membership of the Distinguished Service Order shall be awarded by the Prime Minister, and if it is for Commander, with the advice of the Minister of Military Affairs.

(4) Companions of the Distinguished Service Order are entitled to use the post-nominal letters "CpDSO" and Commanders "CmDSO".

4. The Delegate's Award for Voluntary Service

(1) The Delegate's Award for Voluntary Service are to be awarded to citizens who have made commendable contributions and deeds for the South Pacific and their fellow citizens without regard for self-interest or personal advancement.

(2) The Delegate's Award for Voluntary Service shall be awarded by the Delegate. 

5. Awarding and Revocation of Decorations

(1) To award a decoration, the issuer thereof shall issue a public post which must include the following:
a. the name of the recipient;
b. the decoration being awarded;
c. a citation justifying the awarding;
d. the signatures of the issuer and the Honours Registrar.

(2) The government of the South Pacific shall at all times recognize the legitimacy of the decorations of any and all recipients, except in the case of revocation.

(3) Any individual who has engaged in extremely dishonourable and reprehensible conduct, or has been found to have been awarded a decoration under false or unworthy pretenses shall have their decoration stripped from them by an Assembly resolution. If an individual has more than one decoration, it is at the discretion of the Assembly to revoke one or all of such decorations.

(4) The Assembly, by resolution, may ban an individual from receiving future decorations if they meet any of the criteria listed above for revoking a decoration.

(5) Public posts of all awardings shall not be tampered with or destroyed, even when revoked.  

6. The Honours Registrar

(1) The Honours Registrar shall be appointed by the Cabinet and approved by the Assembly via a simple majority vote.

(2) The Honours Registrar is responsible for assisting the issuers in the awarding of decorations and maintaining a register of the recipients of the respective decorations, which shall include reference to public posts of the awardings.  
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#13

Nice! May I suggest two things?

The reference in 5.4 is a little clumsy; I first went looking for 3.5 (which doesn't exist) and then only realised you meant 5.3 - albeit perhaps this is just me. My suggestion is to word 5.4 so that it reads:

Quote:(4) The Assembly, by resolution, may ban an individual from receiving future decorations if they meet any of the criteria listed above for revoking a decoration.

Also, could we add the MoMA into 3.3?

Quote:(3) Membership of the Distinguished Service Order shall be awarded by the Prime Minister and, if it is for military service, with the advice of the Minister of Military Affairs

Anyway, everything does look really good Smile
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(06-26-2019, 07:28 PM)Nat Wrote: Nice! May I suggest two things?

The reference in 5.4 is a little clumsy; I first went looking for 3.5 (which doesn't exist) and then only realised you meant 5.3 - albeit perhaps this is just me. My suggestion is to word 5.4 so that it reads:
Quote:(4) The Assembly, by resolution, may ban an individual from receiving future decorations if they meet any of the criteria listed above for revoking a decoration.

Also, could we add the MoMA into 3.3?
Quote:(3) Membership of the Distinguished Service Order shall be awarded by the Prime Minister and, if it is for military service, with the advice of the Minister of Military Affairs

Anyway, everything does look really good Smile 

Fixed!

I'm thinking that the responsibilities of the Honours Registrar can be transferred over to MoRA to avoid creating unnecessary positions. But I don't know if it'll add too much burden for them.
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(06-26-2019, 11:01 PM)Bzerneleg Wrote: Fixed!

I'm thinking that the responsibilities of the Honours Registrar can be transferred over to MoRA to avoid creating unnecessary positions. But I don't know if it'll add too much burden for them.

Thanks Smile

You and I must have a telepathic connection or something Tounge I also was thinking about whether MoRA could take over as Honours Registrar but wasn't sure if it would be too much; maybe you should discuss it with @Rebeltopia
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#16

The bill, and its system of awards, seems cool — but I'm not sure we really addressed how we'd get people to use the awards system more this time around.
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(06-27-2019, 11:34 PM)Pronoun Wrote: The bill, and its system of awards, seems cool — but I'm not sure we really addressed how we'd get people to use the awards system more this time around.

That really has to depend. High-ranking medals and orders are supposed to be exclusive to the most outstanding of individuals. Taking into consideration the limited number of people who are actually engaged in the government, military or other important parts of the region, I don't expect many people to be awarded. But that's the purpose of awarding decorations, to recognize exceptional and selfless service. Anyone can serve, but not all can put their hard work and dedication for a long time in a cause they truly want to fight for. If we award too many, we run the risk of downgrading the importance and reputation of the decorations. So for me, it's more about quality than quantity.

But other than that, I think one of the reasons people shy from issuing awards is inconvenience and confusion. If we make it more established and assist them in issuing awards, like making a standard template or creating the medals, we'll have people getting awards in no time.
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#18

If we're going to do this, I think it'd make the most sense to have this headed by the Chair of Assembly, and the list of all awards (and those banned from awards) at the bottom of the act. We can still have a separate area for public display, but an official record should be kept in the act itself.
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#19

We’ve done this before and we either;

a) Give awards to everyone at the drop of a hat making things pointless

b) Never give anyone an award making things pointless

I like the current system where, after a very long time and once someone has stepped back from the game, we name a sub-forum after them.
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(07-01-2019, 04:22 PM)Belschaft Wrote: We’ve done this before and we either;

a) Give awards to everyone at the drop of a hat making things pointless

b) Never give anyone an award making things pointless

I like the current system where, after a very long time and once someone has stepped back from the game, we name a sub-forum after them.

This whole proposal feels more like a solution looking for a problem. The awards are a decent idea in theory, but in practice we run into the same problems you list every time. And they run into a whole list of associated issues like politicisation of selections (especially if it's up to the Del/PM/etc).




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