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**Jay Coop** · 01-23-2020, 01:23 AM

This is the last of the Cabinet expansion proposals as was discussed on Discord. Since this wasn't an option the first time around, people will have a chance to vote on a standalone Ministry of World Assembly Affairs.

Quote:VI. THE EXECUTIVE

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(2) The Cabinet will consist of ministers with the following portfolios: Foreign Affairs, Regional Affairs, and Military Affairs, and World Assembly Affairs.

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Minister of Military Affairs

(11) The Minister of Military Affairs will be the civilian leader of the armed forces of the Coalition, the South Pacific Special Forces. In conjunction with a group of Generals, the Minister of Military Affairs will be responsible for the defense of the Coalition, building military activity, and conducting military operations.

(12) The Minister of Military Affairs may elect to establish an intelligence office, in equal coordination with the Council on Regional Security.

Minister of World Assembly Affairs

(13) The Minister of World Assembly Affairs will be the Coalition's chief representative to the World Assembly. They will be responsible for providing opinions and recommendations to the Delegate and the region on proposed resolutions in the General Assembly and Security Council and helping members of the South Pacific in drafting proposals.

(14) On proposed resolutions in the Security Council, the Minister of World Assembly Affairs must make a joint recommendation with the Minister of Foreign Affairs to the Delegate.

Addendum 1 – Amendment to Article IX of the Charter

Quote:IX. THE COUNCIL ON REGIONAL SECURITY

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(11) The Delegate must grant members of the Council on Regional Security appropriate Regional Officer powers to fulfill their duties. When there is a limited number of Regional Officer positions available, those positions must be given to the most senior Council members.

Addendum 2 – Amendment to the Regional Officers Act

Quote:2. Regional Officers

(1) The in-game Delegate will be granted all Regional Officer powers.

(2) The Cabinet ministers will be allotted four Regional Officer positions and granted Appearance, Communications, and Polls powers unless otherwise stated. They will decide which Cabinet ministers among them will be granted Embassies power.

(2) The Minister of Foreign Affairs will be granted the Embassies power.

(3) The Minister of Regional Affairs will be granted the Appearance and Communications powers.

(43) The Prime Minister will be granted the collective set of powers granted to the other Cabinet ministers hereinall non-Border Control powers.

(54) Members of tThe Council on Regional Security will be allotted three Regional Officer positions and granted the Border Control and Communications powers.

(65) At least one member of tThe Local Council will be allotted three Regional Officer positions and granted the Appearance, Communications, and Polls powers.

(6) Members of the Council on Regional Security who concurrently serve as another Regional Officer named in this Act shall be granted the powers of both offices. This will not count toward the three Regional Officer positions allotted to the Council on Regional Security.

(7) During elections, the Election Commissioner will be granted the Polls and CommunicationCommunications and Polls powers.

Due to the timely nature of this proposal, expect a motion to waive minimum debate time.

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**USoVietnam** · 01-23-2020, 02:14 AM

I am against this resolution. The argument is that there is no need for a WA ministry to fulfill what the amendment said at this time. A standalone WA advisor is enough to do what the amendment said without the need for a brand-new government institution. A WA ministry is only justifiable when it involves in getting regional members to participate in the decision-making process related to the WA and making their opinion has some sort of actual effect on how our region votes since you need a sizable number of staff , dedicated infrastructure, and detailed executive plans like what a normal ministry has with this operation.

If the purpose of this resolution is to make fostering a WA community more efficient then the proper, logical, and most common way is to set up an informal department run by appointed officials like SWAN, have plans for recommendations, recruitment, guiding, and incentivize new members to vote on or draft resolutions. Over time, the number of participants in WA decision-making will increase to the point when they need a proper ministry to give them the political, enforceable executive power they need.

Creating a WA ministry at this time is a waste of cabinet portfolio space and may actually reduce the efficiency of building a WA community since the benevolent-dictatorship-style management (Many beginning-stage big projects are run under an appointed rather than elected official) needed for a project of this scale may get jeopardized by elections.

Another thing I need to remind is that our WA plan needs to place the highest priority on educated vote. Practically all these WA community building stuff is to service that need. What we should build is an educated WA voter base who will help us on making choices that are both educated and reflecting the will of gameside nations. WA base who knows how to make proposals is a lower priority thing which still needs the how-to-vote knowledge first.

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Concrete Slab · 01-23-2020, 10:12 AM

But, wouldn't a WA ministry make facilitate the educated vote? It could take on a role of that similar to TNP, creating opinions and publishing them to help other nations make educated decisions. Creating a ministry and giving the WA an actual structure to work on would make increasing activity much easier than what's happening in the status quo.

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**USoVietnam** · 01-24-2020, 03:26 AM

(01-23-2020, 10:12 AM)Concrete Slab Wrote: But, wouldn't a WA ministry make facilitate the educated vote? It could take on a role of that similar to TNP, creating opinions and publishing them to help other nations make educated decisions. Creating a ministry and giving the WA an actual structure to work on would make increasing activity much easier than what's happening in the status quo.

Such responsibilities do not need a ministry. A ministry needs to have actual enforceable executive power (that is the power to enforce its opinions, preferably opinions by common voters like in TNP). Maybe add that into the amendment and we may have a ministry that is worth to be called one.

Anyway, there is no harm in creating one. I do hope if the bill passes, we won’t have terrible executive leaders that will ruin the intention of the bill. Executive leaders will be the ones who do the jobs here, not legislators and legislation.

You probably need a year of good leadership to build up the ministry which is rare. It is gonna be a real disappointment if the primary activity just stops after 5 recommendations just because people are lazy.

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**Belschaft** · 01-24-2020, 07:27 AM

The issue here CS is that one eager and motivated player (yourself) does not equal the need for a ministry. The argument in favour of this seems to be that if we create a WA Ministry it will generate the activity and community to justify the existence of the Ministry, rather than there already being the activity and community that necessitates a Ministry.

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**USoVietnam** · 01-24-2020, 08:46 AM

(01-24-2020, 07:27 AM)Belschaft Wrote: The issue here CS is that one eager and motivated player (yourself) does not equal the need for a ministry. The argument in favour of this seems to be that if we create a WA Ministry it will generate the activity and community to justify the existence of the Ministry, rather than there already being the activity and community that necessitates a Ministry.

The original WA idea was that we make an informal department to try to build up the community, if the community is big enough, we will go full ministry. It seems like we have opted to go with the faster and potentially more risky way.

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**Amerion** · 01-29-2020, 08:43 AM

I don't imagine there will be any additional discussion given that these amendments were part of the previous month-long debate. As such, I motion for this proposal to go to a vote.

**Seraph** · 01-29-2020, 02:53 PM

I second that motion.

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