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[DRAFT] Closing votes
  • Offline Jay Coop
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#1
11-16-2020, 03:26 PM

I'm proposing the creation of a mechanism that allows the Chair to end voting earlier if all legislators have voted. Granted, there aren't many instances of everyone having voted because there's almost always a few inactive legislators, but I think this mechanism gives the Chair some flexibility in closing votes earlier if we ever find ourselves in these circumstances. After all, the reason why we stipulate having three or five days of voting is to allow all legislators enough time to vote, so it makes sense to close voting once everyone has cast a vote.

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(8) The Chair may close voting on general and constitutional laws, amendments, resolutions, and appointments if all legislators have voted.
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#2
11-16-2020, 03:32 PM

I don't think this is necessary because (correct me if I am wrong) we haven't had all listed legislators vote on every vote in ages, if not ever (since I have been here).
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11-16-2020, 03:34 PM

As stated in the OP, I recognize that, but I don't see why that should prevent having a provision in our law that allows the Chair to close votes should the situation arise.
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11-16-2020, 03:40 PM

Normally, I would agree, but I think in this instance it is over legislating. Ending a vote on time vs early would not necessarily change anything either.

Needless to say, I am not opposed to this amendment, and would indeed vote for it, I just don't think it justifies adding it to the law.
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11-16-2020, 03:58 PM

This is utterly pointless, as we never have all legislators vote.
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#6
11-16-2020, 06:54 PM

Eh.  I mean, I think it's unlikely we'll have all the votes, but I could see potential benefits. I'll support.
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#7
11-16-2020, 08:04 PM

I'm also going to say that having a set time limit allows people to change their vote or vote a bit later without fear of having the vote close on them before the time ends.

Considering that we're adding uncertainty to gain a provision that will almost certainly never be used, I'm against this.

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#8
11-16-2020, 11:59 PM

(11-16-2020, 06:54 PM)Tsunamy Wrote: Eh.  I mean, I think it's unlikely we'll have all the votes, but I could see potential benefits. I'll support.

Echoing Tsu, support.
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#9
11-17-2020, 12:16 AM

(11-16-2020, 03:34 PM)Jay Coop Wrote: As stated in the OP, I recognize that, but I don't see why that should prevent having a provision in our law that allows the Chair to close votes should the situation arise.

In support, but I ask the Assemblyman to extend the same deference for solutions to possible future realities he seeks here, to all legislative considerations currently facing this chamber.
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11-17-2020, 03:16 AM

(11-16-2020, 06:54 PM)Tsunamy Wrote: Eh.  I mean, I think it's unlikely we'll have all the votes, but I could see potential benefits. I'll support.
Could someone outline what these potential benefits are? I'll be honest, I struggle to think of any - except that perhaps a bill might become law a day or two before it otherwise would have, which strikes me as marginal.
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