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I think either Somy or Anjo would be fine for MoE. I've seen the argument that Anjo being the OWL director would be an impediment to the OWL if they're appointed MoE, but we can consider Somy for OWL director if that happens. After all, Somy ran the OWL before.
Well, since Anjo is running for Chair, it's a moot point to discuss appointing them MoE. I'd say that I'm leaning on going with Somy, but now, the discussion becomes who we should appoint to be the OWL director.
(08-19-2021, 04:26 PM)Jay Coop Wrote: the discussion becomes who we should appoint to be the OWL director. Legally, I do not believe Anjo has to step down as OWL Director since Elections Act 7(1) specifies Cabinet ministers and not members of the executive. But I may be wrong? "Legal Question time?" I'm fine with Somy or Oshiega/Ero. Somy is the more experienced/steady choice. Oshiega is the out of the box choice. Minister of Foreign Affairs
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Anjo is running for Chair of the Assembly so that functionally removes him from consideration if he wins. He hasn't won yet, but he's the only candidate at present and the election will not conclude until the 26th. While he could be an "oh well it's nearly the 31st so we need someone and that's our option" emergency choice on short notice if he were to be contested and defeated in the election, I don't think we should count on that and then try to fill that gap completely in those five days.
So that leaves us largely with Somyrion or Oshiega.
Also, if we made anjo MoE, then we would need a new OWL Director.
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With Anjo having accepted candidacy for Chair of the Assembly, it is unlikely that he will be available for this assignment.
Oshiega has only sent three messages in MoE since I accepted him, and if he's active in other places I can't really see it. Perhaps you all have interacted with him more than I have, but I'm not sure dropping him into the slot would be a positive thing for either him or the ministry. (08-16-2021, 05:44 AM)Moon Wrote: I'm not sure Viet would accept the offer to be MoE again, based on the reasons HS and Luca outlined above.When I announced my resignation in the MoE staff chat, Vietnam responded that he's available for taking over. I think he is my preference, based on the experience and interest, for the remainder of the term. For the actual work that MoE does, Viet is the most qualified, and may be the only person qualified. I understand the concerns about it being seen as "his department". Like I've mentioned in my thread, I'm not sure MoE can or should be treated as a social ministry since it is primarily used for production and service-based work that few people by volume are qualified to do. I genuinely believe that it is best to reduce Engagement to an OWL-level department or preferrably an admin-run circle of development to help the general continuity of infrastructure and reduce the rather unreasonable expectations on the ministry. This is based on my first-hand perspective as the ministry's head over the last couple months, understanding that a great deal of TSP relies on it to do what it does. The Ministry of Media is better suited to propaganda and integration, and I think the general process of doing that is not unreasonable for casual gameside people to hop into, whereas it is unreasonably difficult here. So best advice: Accept Viet, do something in the Assembly that reconciles these roles. MoE is unviable, at present, with the situation it is in but the existing infrastructure needs to be competently preserved until that happens.
(08-19-2021, 06:30 PM)HumanSanity Wrote: Also, if we made anjo MoE, then we would need a new OWL Director.Right - and the last thing OWL needs right now is any sort of further destabilization/uncertainty. I want to shake stuff up there, but I want us to do it when we actually have the focus on doing so, rather than be playing whack-a-mole with filling high-level government positions. I don't like the idea of Anjo being Chair of the Assembly and OWL Director at the same, for what it's worth, in large part due to OWL needing a good bit of reformative attention right now and the Assembly needing someone to do catch-up for the recent backlog. I'm just making that known. I'm willing to live with it during the current circumstance though. Given Luca's response, I'm extremely reluctant, but not wholly opposed to handing the Ministry to Viet again. However, given that they said they'd be willing to, it's our easiest stable choice if that's the direction we want to go. I'm far from an expert on the MoE so I'm not going to pretend I know exactly what it needs and Luca's description of the issues present seems sensible. If MoE reform/reorganization is something this Cabinet wants to pursue or get the ball rolling on, at that point I would be against handing it to Oshiega as that would not be a very ideal way to start off one's time in the Cabinet as a fresh face.
(08-19-2021, 08:06 PM)Quebecshire Wrote: Right - and the last thing OWL needs right now is any sort of further destabilization/uncertainty. I want to shake stuff up there, but I want us to do it when we actually have the focus on doing so, rather than be playing whack-a-mole with filling high-level government positions.Arguably, if OWL needs a shake up, a shake up in leadership should be a part of that. At the same time, if there's no specific viable candidate to lead an OWL shake up if anjo were appointed MoE, then it's best anjo stays on. Plus, OWL reform discussions will likely take the remainder of the term. (08-19-2021, 08:06 PM)Quebecshire Wrote: MoE reform/reorganization is something this Cabinet wants to pursue or get the ball rolling on, at that point I would be against handing it to Oshiega as that would not be a very ideal way to start off one's time in the Cabinet as a fresh face. To me, the issue is not so much MoE reform/reorganization as it is that the region needs to recognize and appreciate an MoE that isn't defined as coterminous with one person. MoE cannot just be "Viet's job", it has to be a job anyone with reasonable qualifications and levels of interest in the region could approach. It's as much about perception as it is about job capabilities or the Ministry's actual structure. Viet even talked about how the Ministry under him was a tech-development Ministry rather than an outreach Ministry, and the potential for growth and change under a new Minister. For those reasons, I'll just be honest that Viet would be my last choice of the ones we've discussed. I have no doubt Viet would keep the MoE doing good work, but both in perception and practice the MoE can't just be the MoViet, that's not sustainable. Minister of Foreign Affairs
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Luca's departure from the Discord server has made this question slightly more urgent, I believe.
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