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The reason because the Sarajevo assassination escalated into WWI is because of the insane network of alliances in Europe at the time. Serbia was allied with Russia, so the latter declared war on Austria-Hungary, who was allied with Germany, which attacked France and Belgium, which were allied to Great Britain... you get the idea. Now, the landscape is more fragmented, with lots of small powers changing sides constantly, lots of irregular groups, etc; and even if a war is triggered, fear of said war escalating usually limits the conflict to a particular region with the various powers supporting one side (e.g: Syria). Even if there is a network of alliances, the sheer amount of people involved and the fact that nuclear weapons exist keeps any crisis from escalating into world war.
I agree that far-right ultranationalists (and yes, Trump seems to fall in this category) and radical islamists are the biggest danger. The present-day climate of fear and islamophobia perpetuated by the far-right only serves the islamists purpose, to convince Muslims that the West is against islam and that they should all fight against the "crusaders", while the far-right seems to think that hate and endless war against anyone who isn't exactly like them is the solution to every problem. North Korea is a psychotic dictatorship, but Kim Jong-Un knows that if he ever uses his nuclear weapons they will get destroyed, while Russia is a concern in the sense that they would benefit from a divided, nationalistic Europe (and is actively attempting to achieve such a goal) as that would allow them to bully their neighbors into submission. Also, I don't think we should use the term "terrorism" so loosely. A terrorist is somebody who uses violence to intimidate or coerce, usually for political purposes. Hitler, Mussolini, etc, were not terrorists per se; what they did falls under the term "state violence", if they committed such acts at all. The millions who died under Mao's rule in China, for example, were mostly due to famines caused by his disastrous economic policies.
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Just saw some Trump supporters in YouTube comments saying that invading Iran is, like, super easy, you guys... in a video explaining that Iran is pretty damn hard to invade. It is mostly mountains, meaning anybody would have a hard time getting there in the first place, and is pretty much a military power. So, you can't just go there and destroy its nuclear installations unless you want a long, protracted war against a battle-hardened enemy.
So, if Trump did put Iran "on notice", and goes through with whatever that means, it won't be pretty.
RandomGuy199
Representative of the Federal Republic of Karnetvor Resident Venezuelan/Lampshade Bar & Grill Manager- The South Pacific Soldier, South Pacific Special Forces "You're talkin' to the Rolex wearin', diamond ring wearin', kiss stealin', wheelin' n' dealin', limousine ridin', jet flyin', son of a gun, and I'm having a hard time keeping these alligators down!" "The Nature Boy" Ric Flair (02-03-2017, 09:44 PM)RandomGuy199 Wrote: Just saw some Trump supporters in YouTube comments saying that invading Iran is, like, super easy, you guys... in a video explaining that Iran is pretty damn hard to invade. It is mostly mountains, meaning anybody would have a hard time getting there in the first place, and is pretty much a military power. So, you can't just go there and destroy its nuclear installations unless you want a long, protracted war against a battle-hardened enemy. Not to forget, that US-intervention in the Middle East always was a good idea! /s
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(02-03-2017, 01:16 PM)Qvait Wrote: Rizieq may be a terrorist, but at least he's not in an official position of power. Look a Bashar al-Assad. He is a terrorist who is in a position of power. He is at the forefront of genocide in Syria. There were many terrorists in history who held a position of power: Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, Tojo, Mao. You know, mid-post, I realized we were all forgetting someone: Kim Jong-un. A crazy tyrant who has a nuclear arsenal. We're all worried about Trump, Chinese and Russian expansionism, radical Islamic terrorists, and far-right ultranationalists, but there is a guy in North Korea building up a nuclear arsenal, testing the capabilities of his long-range missiles, and seeks to bomb Seoul and start World War III. It doesn't get any crazier than that. Good point. KJU is one of the biggest dangers. There is no one to stop him because the entire population believes DPRK is the most powerful nation on earth. (02-03-2017, 02:31 PM)GI-Land Wrote: But you know, that the situation in 1914 isn't comparable to our situation right now? 1914 was bad, probably worse than now. But, any chance of a war now is much more dangerous than back then. Weapons have improved much since then. (02-03-2017, 06:47 PM)Zak6858 Wrote:(02-03-2017, 04:20 AM)Ausstan Wrote: Duterte is a crazy dictator in disguise True, but the difference is that Hanson, has never had a large supporter base. Trump came up out of nowhere and promised what everyone wanted, with a side of anti-islam, and a touch of insanity, but not enough to turn away most voters. The difference is Hanson has been saying the same stuff since the 90s, and has said anything new. In addition to my last post, Hanson entire party belief is that other cultures were dividing Australia, hence the name. With trump, that was just one policy. Hanson's entire political career was built on anti-islam. This is Pauline Hanson: ![[Image: 330px-Pauline_Hanson_%28438351804%29_%28cropped%29.jpg]](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e9/Pauline_Hanson_%28438351804%29_%28cropped%29.jpg/330px-Pauline_Hanson_%28438351804%29_%28cropped%29.jpg)
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The situation in 1914 was completely different to the situation now. They cannot be compared, at all.
(02-04-2017, 01:23 AM)Sam111 Wrote: The situation in 1914 was completely different to the situation now. They cannot be compared, at all. That is true. But the similarity i'm trying to point out is that both have a real chance of breaking out into a war. Then it was the balkans, now it's the middle east, but in both, there are major alliances, who have interests in those regions, that don't want to lose them. The main difference is that there'll be more than 2 sides, and stronger weapons. All we need is some rogue dictator to get angry and BAM suddenly we're in WW3.
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(02-04-2017, 01:16 AM)Sam111 Wrote: http://www.onenation.com.au/policies/islam *reads* Wow, just reading that must have reduced my IQ by a couple points. The amount of facepalming it caused me to inflict on myself doesn't help either. @Ausstan: I wrote a full paragraph about five posts above yours explaining why we shouldn't compare 1914 to today. It also happens to address a whole lot of your post too...
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