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[FAILED] Amendment to Article 1 of the Elections Act
#11

I have an alternative suggestion that may make banning DM campaigning pointless, by diluting the effect DM campaigning would have.

The Election Commissioner, or a chosen surrogate, or perhaps a bot, could DM or privately contact everyone eligible to vote, and provide them with links to all candidates' campaigns.

Proponents of DM campaigning say that contacting people privately makes them aware of the elections - so why not make people aware centrally? This way we can be sure every voter has been personally been provided links to both campaigns, so there is less of an unlevel playing field, and probably less need to ban DM campaigning at all.
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#12

(04-19-2019, 07:43 AM)Nakari Wrote: I have an alternative suggestion that may make banning DM campaigning pointless, by diluting the effect DM campaigning would have.

The Election Commissioner, or a chosen surrogate, or perhaps a bot, could DM or privately contact everyone eligible to vote, and provide them with links to all candidates' campaigns.

Proponents of DM campaigning say that contacting people privately makes them aware of the elections - so why not make people aware centrally? This way we can be sure every voter has been personally been provided links to both campaigns, so there is less of an unlevel playing field, and probably less need to ban DM campaigning at all.
I could definitely get on board with this and I think it would reap benefits well beyond the DM campaigning issue.
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#13

Hmm. That is an idea. If we were to go in that direction, would we still want some kind of regulation on how DM campaigning should be done? I'm not for banning it outright either, it's definitely useful to open personal connections with the community, but I'm not sure to what extent I like the kind of back-room politics the current non-regulation seems to be encouraging.
 
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#14

(04-21-2019, 04:59 AM)Witchcraft and Sorcery Wrote: Hmm. That is an idea. If we were to go in that direction, would we still want some kind of regulation on how DM campaigning should be done? I'm not for banning it outright either, it's definitely useful to open personal connections with the community, but I'm not sure to what extent I like the kind of back-room politics the current non-regulation seems to be encouraging.

While I largely agree with your sentiments, I think that backroom politics — while generally unhealthy for a vibrant 'fair go for everybody' democracy — is something that we, as players of a political simulation game, should accept as an unfortunate reality.

I fully support Nakari's suggestion as it will lessen the disadvantage of those who choose not to partake in this particular form of campaigning.
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#15

I'm going to resurrect this fast, because I feel Nakari's idea is a great one, and we should have a discussion about this.

So, discuss.
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#16

Yeah, I’m just not sure, does this require legislation or amendment? I’m amenable to the idea and I think it’s a great one actually. It addresses a lot of the problems without getting overly bureaucratic about the whole thing. The question now is whether or not this should be legislated or just adopted as standard procedure.
 
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#17

(05-10-2019, 07:46 AM)Witchcraft and Sorcery Wrote: Yeah, I’m just not sure, does this require legislation or amendment? I’m amenable to the idea and I think it’s a great one actually. It addresses a lot of the problems without getting overly bureaucratic about the whole thing. The question now is whether or not this should be legislated or just adopted as standard procedure.

Election Commissioners come and go so it may be more beneficial to have this written in stone rather than rely on precedence. To that end, if no one beats me to it, I will write up such an amendment in the next two days.
#18

I agree. I suppose whichever of us gets to it first Tounge
 
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#19

go go go! legislate legislate legislate!
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#20

Amendment to Article 1 Wrote:
Elections Act
An act establishing elections for office

1. Election Commission

...

(3) The Commissioner will at the beginning of the voting period, directly message every Legislator with a notification of the vote and include in that message links to each candidate's platform.

This amendment is admittedly somewhat poorly written. I welcome any and all suggestions for improvement.

A sticking point which made itself apparent is whether this duty of the EC — to alert every eligible voter of the election — should extend to gameside as well?




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