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No they really don't. Severisen was an appointment by -MYSELF- with permission of Asta. Xoriet was appointed by QuietDad with permission of Asta. Yes. QuietDad. Is he a foreign oligarch as well?
Asta was given the foundership by Hile after the channel SOPs voted on it when Hile told us he wanted rid of it. The channel is 8 years old at this point. Severisen, Glen Rhodes, Awe, Kris, Todd, Tsu < CITIZENS. This isn't about NON CITIZENS, this is about people you DISLIKE. Now WHO IS PUSHING A PETTY AGENDA? -YOU-. We discussed the matter (Hile, Asta, Todd and myself), and Asta was decided as the most neutral... it very nearly went to Todd, and you would be pitching a tent if that was the case more than the half mast you have waving in the wind right now. Had it been me, you'd have been banned the second I saw the "c" word aimed at other members in the channel. Use it in query if you like, but it is a vile word and to use it at other people is horrific. The logs are open record btw, if you see the post above. The only thing I've removed from them are IPs. We quite clearly see you start it. I was in the BATH. My "...." is literally the SECOND I got back to the laptop still wearing a bloody towel and about to get changed. I have every word that was said on my client and the logs are public - see below. "Logs from the full event. http://pastebin.com/EXwpwJ4D" I'm also well aware of what QuietDad said in query, he was hoping that you would see reason and actually have a go at not attacking people you disliked, another op suggested giving you a chance to apologise, but we know you from personal experience and realised that such an option would not be taken. You are not an AOP. You have never been an AOP in the duration I have been part of the channel staff. [00:01] -ChanServ- 62 Unibot +AV (VOP) QuietDad was originally trying to give you +O (auto op) as chair of the assembly but changed his mind.
I was most definitely an AOP.
Quote:Asta was given the foundership by Hile after the channel SOPs voted on it when Hile told us he wanted rid of it. The channel is 8 years old at this point. Yes, a corrupt deal - a product of a by-gone era of foreign imperialism. The AOP list reflects a political elite which control most IRC channels - how many IRC channels have Asta or Todd as OPs? It's an interconnected interregional presence. We ought to pursue independence from that overarching structure with a community IRC channel for our own community - with OPs that reflects our region's leadership - not our region's socialites (foreign, native and pseudo-native).
I don't think it's a coincidence that we call out an AOP for being a non-native here and lord and beyond, an hour later:
http://thesouthpacific.x10.mx/showthread...5#pid27945 That suggests that someone here has directly leaked the contents of this thread to a foreigner for their own political gain and advantage. How many laws have to be broken? How many constitutional rights and freedoms have to be ignored, before TSP builds its own public communal IRC environment that is independent of these corrupt political dynasties? It's time to move on from Hileville and roll up the purple carpet.
The OP's were talking and felt it'd be a good idea for all AOP's to be citizens. I thought that's what you wanted?
So, you want more power in the irc channel then? You want another channel to add to your op list as you feel that Asta and Todd are overwhelming presences that intimidate you? Despite the fact that Asta and Todd aren't generally involved in any channel affairs, leaving the general management of the channel to QuietDad and myself, you think that they are foreign influences who are going to steal into your house and kidnap your family from underneath your nose before your band of merrymen can ride to your/their rescue?
I agreed that Asta was the best person to hold it, she doesn't get involved with the spats and arguments, as I've already said, if it were me, you'd be banned permanently by now simply because of what happened in our last major blowup in TEPs Skype Channel, which conversely you were banned from because you couldn't restrain yourself. Speaking of citizens, the Ops were talking and decided that our non-citizen op should actually rectify that so we have a complete citizens lineup, our delegate agreed and we should soon see an application, if we haven't already for it. To ensure that TSP has a perfectly maintained lineup of citizens overseeing the irc community chat channel. Not that it will do anything as your end game is pretty obvious. Why don't you actually spend time handling community matters with The Rejected Realms? You know, that region you were elected to lead a few months back? The only foreign influence I see in this region right now, is the one standing on their soap box demanding that The South Pacific isolate everyone he doesn't like from a communal chat channel and move to something "private". You threw your rattle out the second someone actually removed you from the channel for what happened - it took time for us to discuss the event and for me to read the logs but it was done. Your ban is my doing, as I was the one who suggested it and the one who asked the other ops to vote. I could have done it without consulting anyone but that's not my way. Todd REFUSED to comment. REFUSED. TO. COMMENT. Making that clear for you. I think the bottom line guys and gals is this: Uni thinks we suck balls so he wants you to move to a channel that he controls so he can do/say what he likes and cause he'll always be willing to let the government/community control it, cause he's never rallied against the government of this region or any other region before right? right? of course we can trust the person who frequently insults not just our allies in the north, but our own citizens in our own irc channel by calling them vile words... omg we should totally do this. I mean that he also takes to grinding his axe against people from the East simply because he lost a debate over some bloody gameplay related policy and cannot resist acting like a petulant child being denied a treat because he started throwing his lunch at the walls! The Assembly deserves better than a biased, close-minded, rude and childish chair trying to manipulate it. Grow up. Oh yes, I've spoken to QD - neither he or I have any recollection of you being AOP. He asked Asta for permission to add you, and it was declined.
Ahaha, yeah I'm sure that's how that conversation went. Let's not play in the passive-aggressives, you're being disingenuous and you and your cronies told Xoriet to sign up for citizenship with the hopes of undermining this very political discussion - which is a PRIVATE discussion between OUR region, not foreigners.
Quote:Uni thinks we suck balls so he wants you to move to a channel that he controls so he can do/say what he likes and cause he'll always be willing to let the government/community control it, cause he's never rallied against the government of this region or any other region before right? right? of course we can trust the person who frequently insults not just our allies in the north, but our own citizens in our own irc channel by calling them vile words... omg we should totally do this. I mean that he also takes to grinding his axe against people from the East simply because he lost a debate over some bloody gameplay related policy and cannot resist acting like a petulant child being denied a treat because he started throwing his lunch at the walls! Excuse me? We have moderation in the Assembly and me being the Chair does not excuse you from calling me a "biased, close-minded, rude and childish" anything. Your entire presence here in this debate has been to flamebait me and post compromising logs. Quote:Why don't you actually spend time handling community matters with The Rejected Realms? You know, that region you were elected to lead a few months back? If you want to criticize my performance as delegate of The Rejected Realms, The Rejected Realms (Not TSP) is probably the best place to voice those criticisms.
Sure, Unibot. That's exactly what happened.
Yes, it is. You can stop insulting our region's intelligence now. None of us were born yesterday.
Sorry to interrupt, but I personally believe that having Asta as founder is a good and bad thing.
Good: Won't care about TSP politics that occur within the channel. Bad: A foreign influence. Thanks for listening in on this relatively unbiased post. That is all. |
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