| Changing Recall Procedures |
(10-01-2014, 04:37 PM)QuietDad Wrote: There were NO actions relating to TSP for him to be accountable to,Hey QD, this is the thread to discuss changing recall procedures, not on Recalling Unibot. Please argue your point in the correct thread. Also I'll be moving this to the Private Halls due to people mentioning Uni's recall, and the likelyhood that it will be mentioned in the future. Sorry if I'm stepping on your toes on this Unibot. (10-01-2014, 05:42 PM)Arbiter08 Wrote:(10-01-2014, 04:37 PM)QuietDad Wrote: There were NO actions relating to TSP for him to be accountable to,Hey QD, this is the thread to discuss changing recall procedures, not on Recalling Unibot. Please argue your point in the correct thread. Just responding to the two posts DIRECTLY above me. Your sandbox.
In my opinion, the procedures aren't the issue. The real cause for reform is that the law is too liberal in what recalls are meant to be used for. Frankly, we shouldn't be recalling anybody unless they're derelict in their duties or they've abused their powers. Recalls should not be political tools to take down people you just don't like, or used rashly whenever somebody's unpopularity spikes.
(10-01-2014, 05:26 PM)Penguin Wrote: It Bothers me that uneducated people are allowed to make decisions. This is why we need a change on recall procedures. Just because you do not agree with a statement that was not yours does not make them "uneducated" and you should refrain from using such passive aggressive comments. (10-01-2014, 06:08 PM)Sandaoguo Wrote: In my opinion, the procedures aren't the issue. The real cause for reform is that the law is too liberal in what recalls are meant to be used for. Frankly, we shouldn't be recalling anybody unless they're derelict in their duties or they've abused their powers. Recalls should not be political tools to take down people you just don't like, or used rashly whenever somebody's unpopularity spikes. I agree with Sandaoguo completely. Recalls can be used by other people to gain an advantage or make or people dislike them. Even if a recall fails it can put pressure on people to resign or makes people dislike them. Unless someone has broken the law, abused their powers or harmed TSP recalls should NOT be allowed to take place. A basic rule of democracy is that once someone is elected in, even if you don't like them, you have to let their time run out before someone else can be elected in. Europeian Ambassador to The South Pacific
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(10-01-2014, 05:26 PM)Penguin Wrote: It Bothers me that uneducated people are allowed to make decisions. This is why we need a change on recall procedures. I'll tell you what bothers me: your post. Would the honourable vice-chair kindly enlighten us uneducated peasants over what exactly she defines as educated?
That is by no means a basic rule of democracy. If the people of this region wish to have an honest discussion about the performance of an elected official, then our Code of Laws clearly mandates such a discussion. If an official has broken the law, then a recall should be the least of their concerns. It is up to the Assembly to decide whether the official should actually be recalled, but there should be no doubt that it is their right to have one in the first place.
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I'd still like to suggest these terms...
(10-01-2014, 02:26 PM)Unibot Wrote:Quote:Article 2: Recall Procedures
Could you elaborate on Article 2.3. More specifically, which parts of The Charter it refers to.
For goodness sake people. In real life people do things they shouldn't however they keep their jobs. A simple rule of democracy is that once a person is elected they STAY in until their time is up. If they brake the law they are recalled and arrested. That's democracy and you just have to accept it.
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