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[DISCUSSION] Delegacy Transitions
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(04-15-2020, 04:25 PM)Tsunamy Wrote: I'm not keen on the early election (or pushing the start for the term) for two reasons. First, if we push the start of term we're going to have staggered elections like we do for the CoA, which isn't ideal. Second, if we did an early election, I feel like we lose energy and interest in the interim for both ends.
What would be staggered about the elections? If we were to do something along the lines of what Nakari said, we would still be holding the elections on January 1 and July 1 and terms would still be more or less 6 months long. The terms themselves (i.e. the periods in which each person assumes the responsibilities of delegate) would just shift later by a month or two.

I can see how it might still turn into an "interim" period when nothing gets done, though -- just like it is now.
(04-15-2020, 05:31 PM)Omega Wrote: Is the CRS doing anything to get new members? I generally am okay with requiring the delegate to have been a CRS member so if the CRS is not working to expand it's membership, this could be a barrier to entry people could be unable to surpass. 
(04-14-2020, 07:07 PM)Penguin Wrote: The only issue I’m seeing with the CRS requirement is those are essentially locked in positions and people may complain about having the same people in those positions for ages but I agree people in those positions have already been cleared to hold a Delegate office so it makes sense
To be clear, the proposal that we had come to before (that I was referencing here) was that candidates would have to meet the criteria for CRS, not necessarily be actual CRS members.
 
(04-15-2020, 07:54 PM)Tsunamy Wrote: Seraph certainly would have and I suspect Somy would have (or would have been close), but I'm unsure where they started before they ran. 
I would have -- if I recall correctly, I was actually exceeding the cap by like 30 endorsements and got a warning from the CRS to bring my endorsements down just a week or so before being elected and having to raise them again. Tounge
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From Discord: If we were to do the election shift idea, I'd say the Delegate-elect (which Nakari astutely likened to the U.S. President between November and January 20) should have a RO position during those remaining months of the incumbent's delegacy, with -- and only with -- Communications power to send tarting TGs.
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I like the idea of giving The Del-elect an RO spot.
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1) So, just to be clear, the CRS requirements are both endorsements *and* having been around long enough to build influence. Although, if we were to require all candidates to be near the endorsements cap before running for delegate — such a requirement would harken back to The Brave Little Toaster declarations.

2) Have we not been giving delegate elect's ROs powers? That seems like that should happen.

3) I mean, what type of time-lapse are we thinking about here? While I appreciate the comparison to the US elections that — it of itself — is only a bit over two months. I could see doing two weeks — say, if elections finish around Jan./July 15, start the term Feb./Aug. 1, but I don't think we're want to go much beyond that.

Other than Somy's transition, do we have any sense of what the next longest transition period was?

I still think the problem is more that we didn't have the endorsement cap calibrated correctly. I mean, even right now we have a gap of nearly 350 between the cap and Somy, which, while def. safe, is probably much more than we really need.
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I think the best solution would be a time-lapse of a month (term begins at beginning February and August as Tsu said) (which would also allow time for any legal issues to be settled by the court) in combination with a general increase of the endo-cap, and leniency for candidates that go over the endo-cap for the duration of the election. Also, goes without saying, a RO spot of the delegate elect would be needed too.
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(04-15-2020, 06:05 PM)Jay Coop Wrote:
(04-15-2020, 05:31 PM)Omega Wrote: Is the CRS doing anything to get new members? I generally am okay with requiring the delegate to have been a CRS member so if the CRS is not working to expand it's membership, this could be a barrier to entry people could be unable to surpass.

I would like to see some transparency from the CRS. For example, releasing statistics such as the number of applications submitted in a given time period while maintaining the anonymity of applicants. It would show that there are actually people applying to be CRS members.

I am very happy to release that information. To the best of my knowledge, we have only had one application in the last six months, which was rejected on the basis of needing more experience with a recommendation to resubmit after 6 months.
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By the way, the CRS can already institute a "Defense Council" similar to what I had proposed multiple times as-is. They have the power to set multiple endorsement caps. That might be a viable stepping stone.

Furthermore, the CRS has traditionally been deliberately lenient with the endorsement cap for Delegate candidates.
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(04-16-2020, 06:30 AM)Seraph Wrote: I am very happy to release that information. To the best of my knowledge, we have only had one application in the last six months, which was rejected on the basis of needing more experience with a recommendation to resubmit after 6 months.

I would imagine that there are quite a number of people in TSP who meet the minimum qualifications for CRS and then some, but either choose not to be CRS or are unaware of the fact that they could apply to become a CRS member. As a region, I think we should make it better known that anyone can apply to become a CRS member if they meet the qualifications.
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(04-16-2020, 06:10 PM)Jay Coop Wrote:
(04-16-2020, 06:30 AM)Seraph Wrote: I am very happy to release that information. To the best of my knowledge, we have only had one application in the last six months, which was rejected on the basis of needing more experience with a recommendation to resubmit after 6 months.

I would imagine that there are quite a number of people in TSP who meet the minimum qualifications for CRS and then some, but either choose not to be CRS or are unaware of the fact that they could apply to become a CRS member. As a region, I think we should make it better known that anyone can apply to become a CRS member if they meet the qualifications.

That's a good point.

From personal experience though, if you have been playing this for a while and are active in the politics-side of the region then you should generally know that you can apply?
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While I'm all for making it clear how someone can apply to the CSS, I don't consider "people don't know how to apply" a valid excuse. The requirements and process are clearly laid out in the Charter. If someone who intends to apply hasn't even read the Charter then I'm not sure if they should be applying in the first place.
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