| [DISCUSSION] Delegacy Transitions |
(04-16-2020, 06:50 PM)Kris Kringle Wrote: While I'm all for making it clear how someone can apply to the CSS, I don't consider "people don't know how to apply" a valid excuse. The requirements and process are clearly laid out in the Charter. If someone who intends to apply hasn't even read the Charter than I'm not sure if they should be applying in the first place. I'm inclined to agree. Nevertheless, as part of our integration processes, we should perhaps make this clear somewhere. I'll consider adding it into my guide dispatch, since that's still being widely disseminated (and could probably do with some revision). Founder of the Church of the South Pacific [Forum Thread] [Discord], a safe place to discuss spirituality for people of all faiths and none (currently looking for those interested in prayer and/or "home" groups);
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Honestly, I'm somewhere in between these positions, but tend to agree with Kris here, too.
We could better acknowledge that people can apply to be CRS, but I don't think we should promote it to the extent of say ... the Fellowship program ... since we really don't want every Tom, Dick and Harry to be applying. That said, we could also just ask the delegate and PM to be more active in tapping people if they think we have good candidates.
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(04-17-2020, 03:52 AM)Seraph Wrote: I'm inclined to agree. Nevertheless, as part of our integration processes, we should perhaps make this clear somewhere. (04-17-2020, 08:28 AM)Tsunamy Wrote: We could better acknowledge that people can apply to be CRS, but I don't think we should promote it to the extent of say ... the Fellowship program ... since we really don't want every Tom, Dick and Harry to be applying. Absolutely. I think it's very reasonable to publish a clear outline of how to apply. Like you've both said, though, the lack of one shouldn't be an excuse or impediment, since a truly interested and minimally qualified applicant would've read at least the relevant portion of the Charter. Former Delegate of the South Pacific
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I am with Somyrion's 2nd option here. However I may add a slightly modified version that combines some elements of the first option: One month before the election starts, the endo cap is temporarily lift to a certain number (like 150 endorsements below the delegate, enough to prevent a practical raid). Nations will need to meet a minimum endorsement count requirement before they can run. (Let say 80% of the temporary cap).
I urge people to avoid going for the full first option here due to its divisive nature. We should sort that problem out at another time instead.
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Can we ONLY apply that lift to candidates though? I don't see the need for EVERY member of the region getting 1000 endos when in reality only like *12 people need them that high.
*number is a guesstimate as honestly it can changed based on things
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(04-23-2020, 09:03 PM)Penguin Wrote: Can we ONLY apply that lift to candidates though? I don't see the need for EVERY member of the region getting 1000 endos when in reality only like *12 people need them that high. The requirement is to make the transition as fast as possible since the candidate who wants to run will already have high endorsements. It is very physically and mentally taxing to gain such level of endorsements in 2 week so you won't see "noobmaster69" and such do it. Of course unless you want the election to start 1 month early. And for the raid argument, some people can just fake candidacy and endotart to that point even then pulling out 150-200 updaters is practically impossible. Such feat will go down in NS history. No, such feat will make the admins call everyone who participates into question lmao. A compromise is to make a 1 month grace period that follows a nomination declaration period, only those who declared candidacy during the nomination period can use the temporary cap. Your candidacy will only be valid if you satisfy the endorsement requirement by the time the grace period ends.
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Rather than have several candidates break the endo cap for the election, only for most of them to have to work back down; we should just begin the election early so only the winning candidate needs to focus on endorsing during the transition process.
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So, the thing that pop out to be with the hybrid idea is that we've be excluding anyone who participated in the SPSF to run for delegate.
Also, I'm with Pen. The endorsement cap should not be lifted for everyone with they have no intention of running for delegate. For the CRS to try and get everyone back under the general endorsement cap would be a nightmare. Simultaneously, though, we should be making sure we keep up with the endo cap so there's not a massive gap between the cap and the delegate. Right now we have a nearly 500 because of the circumstances ... but we could obviously be much closer if this is become the new normal.
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(04-24-2020, 03:15 PM)Tsunamy Wrote: So, the thing that pop out to be with the hybrid idea is that we've be excluding anyone who participated in the SPSF to run for delegate. Check the compromise post, I added the grace period in so people still need to get their requirement satisfied to be a legitimate candidate but only those who declared candidacy in the previous period can use the temporary cap for that. As for the SPSF, you won’t be running for delegate if you aren’t ready to temporarily give up the job.
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