(07-22-2022, 11:45 AM)The Lile Ulie Islands Wrote:

(07-21-2022, 03:04 PM)Pronoun Wrote:

(07-21-2022, 11:27 AM)The Lile Ulie Islands Wrote: I love democracy.

I love the Republic Coalition.

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Me too. But I also love democracy. Oh, did I forget to mention, the Local Council.

Now maybe the reason why I like the LC is because its current councilors, Canadian Dominion, Evinea, and Drystar are all nice people who have good relations with TSP residents. If the LC comes to a point where they abuse their power, then I would be open to removing it. Though, at the current moment, I am not going to stand to abolish the LC.

I respect everyone's opinion, you are entitled to your own opinion, so let's be calm here.

If anyone wanted to get rid of the LC, and it was brought up with a vote, I would argue support for moving to appointments for councilors and creating it a bureau under the Ministry of Culture. But I wouldn't support getting rid of the LC.

The Local Council is democratically elected, it shouldn't be removed. Don't know why they want to get rid of a system that has worked for God knows how long.

Acknowledging the successes of the Local Council in meeting the requirements set for it by the 2016 Charter of the South Pacific, being to:

1. Moderate the Regional Message Board,
2. Encourage activity on the gameside, and
3. Administrate itself on issues unique to the in-game community.

I propose the following to replace the existing Local Council Section:


THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT

To provide for an accountable system of local government for the NSSite communities that is effective and sustainable.

MEMBERSHIP

(1) The Local Government (LG) will comprise 5 members being:
- The Delegate,
- A representative of the Forum Executive, and
- Three members of the NSSite communities.

(2) In addition, the LG may allocate a number of deputies to assist them in their duties.

(3) Membership from the NSSite communities, including any deputies, will be detailed in a Local Government Act (or similar).

ADMINISTRATIVE DUTIES

(4) Each member of the LG will be considered Regional Officers and given, as a minimum, the administrative duties of:
- Appearance,
- Communications, and
- Polls.

(5) In addition the above at least, the Forum Executive representative and one of the members of the NSSite communities will be provided Border Control Power in order to undertake effective moderation of the Regional Message Board.

FUNCTIONS

(6) The LG has the functions conferred or imposed on it by or under this Charter and any Act, where that Act is specifically identified as a "Local Government Act".

(7) The primary functions of the LG are as follows
- Promote a positive and supportive the South Pacific community
- Actively engage with the NSSite community
- Represent the interests of all players in the region, fairly, ethically and without bias.
- Moderate and promote engagement on the Regional Message Board,
- Undertake events or occasions,
- Improve integration and linkages between and with other governance elements in the South Pacific, and
- Prepare, enact and maintain legislation, ordinances, bylaws, or policies appropriate to the proper functioning of the Local Government and/or to the betterment of the NSSite Community.

LIMIT OF POWERS

(8) The Local Government is self-determining.

(9) The TSPForums communities may not pass laws that interfere with the operations or proper functioning of the Local Government.

(10) Similarly, the Local Government may not pass legislation, ordinances, bylaws, or policies which extend to the operations or functioning of the TSPForums communities.

(11) The LG may install an NSSite Lower Court to determine cases of criminality affecting the NSSite communities.

V. THE LOCAL COUNCIL

Establishing home rule for the in-game region residents.

(1) The Local Council will be the local government of the in-game community, composed of three or more residents of the South Pacific, and will represent the interests of all players in the region, moderate the Regional Message Board, encourage activity on the gameside, and administrate itself on issues unique to the in-game community.

(2) The Local Council is entitled to self-administration within its jurisdiction on local issues, but may not pass laws or regulations that contradict this Charter or constitutional laws passed by the Assembly. To that end, the Assembly may not enact any law, nor the Cabinet deliver any directive, that is solely related to an issue local to the in-game community, except as done under the terms of this Charter.

(3) The Local Council may not be denied the authority to run regional polls, create and pin Dispatches, and to suppress messages on the Regional Message Board according to a standard moderation policy. However, it may not alter the regional flags or tags, and may not send out mass telegrams, without the approval of the Delegate.

(4) To help promote inter-governmental relations, the Local Council may send a representative to the Assembly whose term must not exceed the Local Council’s. The method of selection will be decided by the Local Council.

Any replacement should only does moderation and community engagement. We need to kill of the LC as a political entity. Any replacement should make it an executive branch body and not anything that resembles a full-fledged government. Mechanism to appoint such body should only focus on the quality of the members that run it rather than representation. The only non-Assembly participation I can think of is appropriate is an approval vote by WA members but even this is too far, Assembly approval is enough imo. The executive branch should be entirely responsible for the team from now on as part of regional affairs. 

I don’t support any notion of “gameside representation” here because it discourages participation on the forum which is a valid platform of the community. There is no barrier for anyone to join the forum, let not make “gameside representation” a thing as if the forum is somehow inaccessible.

(07-24-2022, 06:38 AM)USoVietnam Wrote: ...
I don’t support any notion of “gameside representation” here because it discourages participation on the forum which is a valid platform of the community. There is no barrier for anyone to join the forum, let not make “gameside representation” a thing as if the forum is somehow inaccessible.

I do support gameside representation for the reason that some either don't know of the forum, or aren't active on the forum, which makes them really only active on NS.

I'm just going to note that I put together this proposal for RMB reform in a new thread

(07-24-2022, 06:38 AM)USoVietnam Wrote: Any replacement should only does moderation and community engagement. We need to kill of the LC as a political entity. Any replacement should make it an executive branch body and not anything that resembles a full-fledged government. Mechanism to appoint such body should only focus on the quality of the members that run it rather than representation. The only non-Assembly participation I can think of is appropriate is an approval vote by WA members but even this is too far, Assembly approval is enough imo. The executive branch should be entirely responsible for the team from now on as part of regional affairs. 

I don’t support any notion of “gameside representation” here because it discourages participation on the forum which is a valid platform of the community. There is no barrier for anyone to join the forum, let not make “gameside representation” a thing as if the forum is somehow inaccessible.

I don’t necessarily disagree with all your statement, I agree the official TSP government is located here in the forums, but it’s application to the regular player in the region is spotty at best. To be a functioning government, it has to do more then send out fancy dispatches, sign lengthy treaties, and pat itself on the back for running seemingly endless election campaigns. You want people to support any government, you have to give them some actions. Someone after all has to make sure there’s regular garbage pickup, the sewers and water lines work, and that someone will respond in case of fire, flood, or felon. So far the esteemed members of the TSP government have been slightly lacking in providing the basics to its citizens.

We may be low quality, high volume after all, but we are your fellows here, and deserve a bit of good will.

I think, as HumanSanity said, this is more of a case for RMB Reform rather than abolishing the LC itself. I support RMB Reform, but not totally abolishing the LC.

(07-25-2022, 08:25 PM)The Lile Ulie Islands Wrote: I think, as HumanSanity said, this is more of a case for RMB Reform rather than abolishing the LC itself. I support RMB Reform, but not totally abolishing the LC.

HS’s proposal abolishes the LC.

(07-25-2022, 08:42 PM)sandaoguo Wrote:

(07-25-2022, 08:25 PM)The Lile Ulie Islands Wrote: I think, as HumanSanity said, this is more of a case for RMB Reform rather than abolishing the LC itself. I support RMB Reform, but not totally abolishing the LC.

HS’s proposal abolishes the LC.

I know- I should rephrase that.

HS's proposal is for RMB reform. I was saying I support that, but not abolishing the LC.