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Socialism versus Capitalism
#131

First, Art>Business. Without culture we are nothing.

Second, saying no to corruption is easy, actually stopping it is hard. I would know, I live in New York.


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#132

(05-06-2015, 08:40 PM)FederationOfTheRK Wrote: First, Art>Business. Without culture we are nothing.

Second, saying no to corruption is easy, actually stopping it is hard. I would know, I live in New York.


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Off-topic, but I already met 3 people here from New York! Escade, you and Southern Bellz!

New York is sure a populated city isn't it?

Now, on-topic:

Nope. Business > art. What does art generate for the economy? Nothing. At all of I am aware off. Plus, you can get culture in another way. Traditional music, traditional cultural holidays, etc.

Art should be a hobby, not something to be sold.
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#133

*sighs*

It might be a bit hard for you to understand at the moment, but the truth is that getting money is not everything there is to life. Yes, I know you will say that you know that and I didn't mean to say otherwise, but that is exactly how you are coming across.

In fact, you are coming across as incredibly selfish and (sometimes) purposefully oblivious to the failings of capitalism, as if it was a perfect system that everyone should naturally choose. It is not. I am not communist, but I do acknowledge that saying "I built this, I deserve all the money" is not a realistic or desirable course of action. Humans are social creatures, they don't live in vacuums, and they need from one another to survive and thrive.
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#134

Yeah, Ryccia, I've been seeing you as a selfish, incredibly (oblivious? I forget the word) person.


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#135

(05-06-2015, 09:13 PM)Kris Kringle Wrote: *sighs*

It might be a bit hard for you to understand at the moment, but the truth is that getting money is not everything there is to life. Yes, I know you will say that you know that and I didn't mean to say otherwise, but that is exactly how you are coming across.

In fact, you are coming across as incredibly selfish and (sometimes) purposefully oblivious to the failings of capitalism, as if it was a perfect system that everyone should naturally choose. It is not. I am not communist, but I do acknowledge that saying "I built this, I deserve all the money" is not a realistic or desirable course of action. Humans are social creatures, they don't live in vacuums, and they need from one another to survive and thrive.
Of course there are flaws to capitalism. Nothing is perfect!

But I prefer capitalism over communism. Forced sharing is ridiculous if done by the community. They just take your will of choosing, and you become imprisioned in the jail of redistribution and restriction. To me, that's not fair.
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#136

My concern is not your rejection of communism, it's your defence of capitalism. You defend what seems to be hardcore capitalism, but your platform is most definitely not what you appear to be defending.

If you truly believe that capitalism in its extreme form is not perfect nor desirable, then you need to start arguing against communism in its extreme form, and instead consider socialism in its more moderate form (just as you claim to be doing with capitalism!). Because so far you appear to be just as extreme for capitalism as you say others have been for communism, and it isn't nice at all.
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#137

(05-06-2015, 11:42 PM)Kris Kringle Wrote: My concern is not your rejection of communism, it's your defence of capitalism. You defend what seems to be hardcore capitalism, but your platform is most definitely not what you appear to be defending.

If you truly believe that capitalism in its extreme form is not perfect nor desirable, then you need to start arguing against communism in its extreme form, and instead consider socialism in its more moderate form (just as you claim to be doing with capitalism!). Because so far you appear to be just as extreme for capitalism as you say others have been for communism, and it isn't nice at all.
I can't consider socialism. The wikipedia explanation is written in a way I can't understand. Seriously, is like Im reading another language!
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#138

Then why are you even participating in this debate? You have just admitted to having no idea of what socialism is.
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#139

You said it yourself. Im defending capitalism against communism.
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#140

And curiously enough, this thread is about socialism, as you can see in its title.
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