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[FAILED] World Assembly reform
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(01-26-2021, 08:56 PM)Jay Coop Wrote: What's more, the proposed bill is basically legislating what we have been doing since creating the OWL. If we're gonna use the argument that this will "give a very small number of active nations a lot of power", I may as well ask where that argument is when the Assembly, a group of 50–100 people, makes decisions on the behalf of the whole region. There is nothing in this bill that gives some sort of almighty power to a small cabal. Anyone with a WA nation in TSP or serving in the SPSF would have the right to cast a vote but a number of those people choose not to exercise that right.

Have we met? I actually agree very much with that assessment, but see the Assembly's role as a necessary evil for democratic governance. 
 
(01-29-2021, 10:53 AM)anjo Wrote:
(01-29-2021, 01:21 AM)Rebeltopia Wrote: Um... the Delegate ALREADY answers to the voters, just as any legally elected position. If the Delegate isnt doing what you think they should, start a recall.

I dont understand why we'd elect a Delegate to handle the WA, then force them to answer to a cabinet minister. The easier way to get the delegate to vote a specific way would be to just codify that they must vote with the higher percentage of voting WA's in the region.

Jay already said this, but the Delegate wouldn't answer to any kind of Cabinet minister. It's just binding them to the decision of the OWL voters, who in fact are the voting WA nations (plus SPSF members) you're proposing to make the Delegate follow.

But of course a vote may swing after OWL voting is closed, that's why we currently have a provision in our internal procedure saying that the Delegate should change their vote when the WA's voting period on a resolution is ending and the Delegate would go against the regional vote. It might be worth to include something to that effect in this bill.

And, I generally agree with this latter statement. But what happens if the OWL is opposite the rest of the region when the vote closes? Would the delegate still be require to vote with OWL rather than the rest of the region?
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Messages In This Thread
[FAILED] World Assembly reform - by Jay Coop - 01-26-2021, 06:07 PM
RE: World Assembly reform - by Tsunamy - 01-26-2021, 08:02 PM
RE: World Assembly reform - by Purple Hyacinth - 01-26-2021, 08:43 PM
RE: World Assembly reform - by Jay Coop - 01-26-2021, 08:56 PM
RE: World Assembly reform - by Belschaft - 01-26-2021, 09:22 PM
RE: World Assembly reform - by Jay Coop - 01-26-2021, 10:12 PM
RE: World Assembly reform - by Langburn - 01-27-2021, 02:31 AM
RE: World Assembly reform - by Damination - 01-27-2021, 02:00 AM
RE: World Assembly reform - by USoVietnam - 01-27-2021, 07:41 AM
RE: World Assembly reform - by Kris Kringle - 01-27-2021, 08:20 AM
RE: World Assembly reform - by Taigama - 01-27-2021, 09:10 AM
RE: World Assembly reform - by USoVietnam - 01-27-2021, 09:21 AM
RE: World Assembly reform - by Bleakfoot - 01-27-2021, 02:13 PM
RE: World Assembly reform - by North Prarie - 01-27-2021, 02:59 PM
RE: World Assembly reform - by Griffindor - 01-27-2021, 03:09 PM
RE: World Assembly reform - by Rebeltopia - 01-29-2021, 12:15 AM
RE: World Assembly reform - by Jay Coop - 01-29-2021, 12:25 AM
RE: World Assembly reform - by Rebeltopia - 01-29-2021, 01:21 AM
RE: World Assembly reform - by anjo - 01-29-2021, 10:53 AM
RE: World Assembly reform - by Taigama - 01-29-2021, 10:01 AM
RE: World Assembly reform - by sandaoguo - 01-29-2021, 10:50 AM
RE: World Assembly reform - by Purple Hyacinth - 01-29-2021, 12:52 PM
RE: World Assembly reform - by Tsunamy - 01-29-2021, 02:24 PM
RE: World Assembly reform - by Rebeltopia - 01-29-2021, 09:09 PM
RE: World Assembly reform - by anjo - 01-30-2021, 06:50 AM
RE: World Assembly reform - by Rebeltopia - 01-30-2021, 06:31 PM
RE: World Assembly reform - by Seraph - 01-30-2021, 10:14 PM
RE: World Assembly reform - by Tsunamy - 01-31-2021, 02:15 AM
RE: World Assembly reform - by Roavin - 01-31-2021, 03:44 PM
RE: World Assembly reform - by Penguin - 01-31-2021, 02:23 PM
RE: World Assembly reform - by Belschaft - 01-31-2021, 04:01 PM
RE: World Assembly reform - by Roavin - 01-31-2021, 05:00 PM
RE: World Assembly reform - by Tsunamy - 01-31-2021, 05:10 PM
RE: World Assembly reform - by sandaoguo - 01-31-2021, 06:51 PM
RE: World Assembly reform - by Encaitar - 02-01-2021, 12:05 PM
RE: World Assembly reform - by Somyrion - 02-01-2021, 08:26 PM
RE: World Assembly reform - by Tsunamy - 02-02-2021, 01:24 AM
RE: World Assembly reform - by Jay Coop - 02-03-2021, 04:27 AM
RE: World Assembly reform - by Tsunamy - 02-03-2021, 11:55 AM
RE: World Assembly reform - by Jay Coop - 02-03-2021, 04:47 PM
RE: World Assembly reform - by Rebeltopia - 02-03-2021, 08:44 PM
RE: World Assembly reform - by Jay Coop - 02-03-2021, 09:00 PM
RE: World Assembly reform - by Bleakfoot - 02-04-2021, 04:02 AM
RE: World Assembly reform - by USoVietnam - 02-04-2021, 07:45 AM
RE: World Assembly reform - by Tsunamy - 02-04-2021, 10:50 AM
RE: World Assembly reform - by Rebeltopia - 02-06-2021, 02:58 PM
RE: World Assembly reform - by Seraph - 02-06-2021, 04:17 PM
RE: World Assembly reform - by Somyrion - 02-06-2021, 09:37 PM
RE: World Assembly reform - by Purple Hyacinth - 02-07-2021, 12:01 AM
RE: [AT VOTE] World Assembly reform - by Stickmin - 02-07-2021, 07:14 PM



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