Chief Justice for Cabinet.


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Chief Justice for Cabinet.


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I'll just note myself (having run in cabinet elections at least twice while being Chief Justice) as an example of why this won't work, and I believe it's fairly common to have at least one justice run in cabinet elections (hence why we moved court elections to only a week after cabinet elections).

And let's review the all too probable situation for appointments:
About a week or two before the admins name a candidate. The assembly spends 2-3 days at least with at least one person loudly questioning their validity, and another question why we need to do this. Eventually someone decides to motion it and by the time the vote finishes at least a week has passed.

It fails for one reason or another and the assembly scrambles for a few days trying to select a candidate. By the time one finally goes to vote and is approved the elections are now several days late and the admins are getting loudly criticized for the issue they apparently caused.

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No, I mean Chief Justice nominating an EC for the Cabinet elections, like the CoA nominating for the Justice elections.


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I'll just throw it out there that I don't have a problem with someone nominating an EC for an election they are running in. The oversight of the Assembly would prohibit any shady deals.

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I'd just like to say that this discussion here is an example of how I think these assembly discussions should work in future - reviewing the entirety of the clause that is being discussed, not just any amendment initially proposed. Good job everyone. Glad that this went this way from my initial post, it was what I wanted to see.

No point having 5 discussions on different parts of the one section over time, sort it all out at the same time. You won't please everyone, but as far as I can see, this seems to be heading to a more acceptable solution now and sorts out a few existing issues at the same time. I know it is still being discussed, but we should end up with a far better article at the end of it, than the simple addition made by the original amendment.

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I don't really think this needs to be changed.

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So, in this new system, the nominations are done by the Assembly...

Article 4 - Election Commission

1. Elections will be run by a member of the forum administration staff, acting as an election commissioner.
2. A designated Election Commissioner shall be appointed by the Assembly if all its members will be candidates in the given election, or if no administrator is able to be an Election Commissioner.
3. Any appointments for the Election Commission shall be approved one week prior to the start of general elections.

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So, in this new system, the nominations are done by the Assembly...

Article 4 - Election Commission

1. Elections will be run by a member of the forum administration staff, acting as an election commissioner.
2. A designated Election Commissioner shall be appointed by the Chair of the Assembly with Assembly approval, if all its members will be candidates in the given election, or if no administrator is able to be an Election Commissioner.
3. Any appointments for the Election Commission shall be approved one week prior to the start of general elections.
4. Approval shall consist of a 3-day voting period and 75% vote in favor of said nominee by members of the Assembly.

How's the above? (Changes in blue.)

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Maybe knock it down a bit to 66%?

75% presents too great a possibility that an appointment fails and holds up elections.

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I don't like the idea of giving the Chair the authority to appoint names; the assembly can appoint people without the middleman.

I also don't think 75% is necessary; assuming there's a contradicting vote that takes place, the person who eventually gets chosen will already be the condorcet winner as is against the other possibilities.

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