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Resolution on the Coalition
#61

The Assembly of the South Pacific,

Hereby resolves the following:

Section A: Transition

1. The Cabinet elected in November 2015 is immediately removed from office.
2. A special election will be held within 72 hours of the passage of this law for all Cabinet positions. Those elected will immediately take their seats and serve the remainder of the interrupted term.
3. Where a Cabinet position is vacant due to resignation, the mandated special election will be suspended in favour of the one mandated in the above clause.
4. Until a new Cabinet is elected, the following citizens shall serve in the Cabinet: Tsunamy as Delegate, Drugged Monkeys as Vice Delegate, Farengeto as Chair of the Assembly, Kringalia as Minister of Foreign Affairs, Siberian Districts as Minister of the Army, Scyllaland as Minister of Regional Affairs.

Section B: Reconciliation

1. A Great Council shall be convened as soon as 7 days and no later than 30 days after a new Cabinet is elected, with a mandate to completely revise all laws of the Coalition.

Section C: Passage Requirements

1. This law shall be held to the same standards of voting and passage as an amendment to the Charter.

These are the things we should focus on right now.
I don't think we should be worried about who we should and shouldn't blame at the moment. We should be focusing on getting the region into a stable position so that we can move past all this.
Everything that was done, was done with the intention of pointing out the issues with OUR region. We should all take time to reflect on how we got to this point, and address those issues with time.
Let's focus on getting the region back up and running, get these elections started, and then worry about what to do next during the Great Council.
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#62

(02-03-2016, 11:43 AM)Punchwood Wrote: I am fine with giving amnesty to those who supported the coup and those Cabinet members who left it before it's fall. I do have a problem however with giving Scylla and Sib their jobs back, I would much rather Res and Zak took their places. I am all for giving people second chances but giving they Cabinet positions right after they helped to coup the regions? No I don't think so and I think any reasonable person would agree with me.


Punch, I get why you would have reservations, I really do, but, I honestly feel that keeping Scylla and Sib on really helps more than it would hurt. I'll just list a few reasons.

1. It keeps things from falling to chaos. They stay in their positions, and the order of rank and file doesn't get disrupted. For Sib, he decided a while ago that this was his last term in the MoA office, and it makes no sense to me for me to replace him if he's only going to be in charge for a few more weeks anyway, especially because I have no plans to run for an office at the moment. It just creates an unneccesary disruption the the order of how things are done.

2. It's only temporary. Both Scylla and Sib have more experience in the positions than anyone else in a direct line of command with both Ministries, it only makes sense that they maintain their positions until someone else is elected in. They already had plans for both ministries before the Coup, it only make sense that they be allowed to continue their plans as scheduled. It'd be a massive waste to have both ministries take new Ministers who'll spend most of their time figuring out what was planned next and how to execute that plan.

3. I'm arguing against my own nomination. I honestly think Sib is the best choice here, and most of my colleagues in SPSF agree, and I'm assuming the same stands for the MoRA position. We feel that they can be trusted with the positions, even if they are just temporary ones.
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#63

DM, I can get behind your draft for the most part, but I still think SJS should be removed from the CSS. I understand the sentimemt towards reconciliation, but having someone who put our regional security in serious danger really should not be part of the institution charged with overseeing that security.
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#64

(02-03-2016, 03:46 PM)Kris Kringle Wrote: DM, I can get behind your draft for the most part, but I still think SJS should be removed from the CSS. I understand the sentimemt towards reconciliation, but having someone who put our regional security in serious danger really should not be part of the institution charged with overseeing that security.
Kris, I fully understand your concern, and the concerns other citizens have voiced as well.
I do think that these concerns need to have discussions, and actions, tied to them. However I do not think that they need to be address right here, right now in this amendment.
We should focus first on getting things back to stable as far as the government is concerned, so that we can address the other concerns still open.
We need to allow other citizens from the other forums to transfer back over, get their minds wrapped around everything, and then as a region and a community we can dive into the root problems.
I suggest that if people still feel that strongly about certain aspects of the situation, such as a CSS removal, then another discussion thread should be opened in regards to each specific issue. We should not try to roll everything up into one big "This is what we should do" amendment.
This was a big event for the region and for the community at large, and should be given the proper time of day to address each part of it properly.
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#65

I don't really see the point to a temporary Cabinet as I'm not sure anything is really so vital that it can't be put off till after the special election, but that's just a personal opinion, not a real issue. Stick an amnesty clause in section B and I think this is good to go.
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#66

(02-03-2016, 03:46 PM)Kris Kringle Wrote: DM, I can get behind your draft for the most part, but I still think SJS should be removed from the CSS. I understand the sentimemt towards reconciliation, but having someone who put our regional security in serious danger really should not be part of the institution charged with overseeing that security.

I gotta agree with Kris here. The rest looks good.



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#67

Yeah, there isn't really any need for a temporary Cabinet if it is only going to be there for a few days. Also, are we going to change the elected Cabinet's term to the June/July (I forgot which one) elections?
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#68

(02-03-2016, 05:52 PM)Zak6858 Wrote: Yeah, there isn't really any need for a temporary Cabinet if it is only going to be there for a few days. Also, are we going to change the elected Cabinet's term to the June/July (I forgot which one) elections?

I disagree. Even if it's only for a few days, it's important to maintain the order and chain of command in our ministries, not to mention a Delegate and Vice Delegate. Not only does it keep a sense of formality about, it provides someone for our allies and partners to contact, and it keeps things simple. I can understand why it would seem unnecessary, but, it is vital that we maintain the status and ability of our ministries both before and during elections.
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#69

No I also don't see the point in creating a temporary Cabinet as we are going to fight and bicker about it for the next few days meaning that it's going to take even longer for an election to happen. Therefore I propose the following:

1: Special elections for all Cabinet positions shall be held from the 5th of February till the 14th of February.
2. Sandaoguo shall serve as Electoral Commissioner.
3. Those elected to the Cabinet shall take their seats immediately after being elected.
4. Those elected to the Cabinet shall serve until the March General Elections.
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#70

Hmm.... I hadn't actually considered how long the special election would last; a temporary cabinet probably is required.
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