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Drall · 08-12-2017, 01:18 AM

Alright. Looks very good overall.

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Simir · 08-12-2017, 10:19 AM

More regional security is always a plus.

**Belschaft** · 08-12-2017, 10:34 AM

This seems eminently reasonable, gives the RO's the powers they need, and has strong checks and balances.

Well done the Cabinet and CRS.

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Penguin · 08-12-2017, 10:50 AM

As long as this is carried out responsibly then we be good :-)

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Tim · 08-13-2017, 10:12 AM

* Tim kicks a ball around, waiting to motion a vote once minimum debate time ends

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***Roavin*** · 08-14-2017, 06:42 AM

The minimum debate period expires in 17 hours. Since there doesn't seem to be any criticisms with this bill, I'll preemptively motion for a vote now.

Sam111 · 08-14-2017, 08:22 AM

I'll second.

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**USoVietnam** · 08-15-2017, 07:14 AM

Seconded.

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**Amerion** · 08-15-2017, 07:54 AM

I believe Far mentioned in Discord that he has some suggestions for this bill.

**Farengeto** · 08-15-2017, 08:50 AM

I will be opposing this bill in its current form. These security measures are unaccountable and unappealable. It undermines the CRS by allowing the delegate to freely appoint BC ROs with no accountability. It allows indefinite bans on even the accusation of criminal charges. Hell, several parts of this bill are one step away from how Funk did the Laz coup, something we just spent weeks criticizing. In fact as written if the Delegate and CRS agree (with our past few Delegates being on the CRS it thins the separation in practice) they can indefinitely ban any nation they choose with no means of appeal. Even if they don't the "whichever is longer" clause lets the CRS ban any nation they choose for the months it takes to lose the influence, again with no accountability or appeal.

I would also argue that this recent incursion was actually an example of the CRS working well. We successfully repelled a hostile foreign incursion without needing to raise regional alarm, and with no disruption to the region or delegacy. Even if this attack had succeeded they would only have temporarily installed the outgoing delegate and member of the CRS who is one of our region's oldest and most trusted members. That is not to dismiss the incident or the need for better security powers, but we are overstating the imminent danger to the Coalition being implied here. And even then, as demonstrated again recently in Laz the biggest threats are the internal, not the external. Foreign infiltration, foreign agitators, endo cap ignorers: those all need to be dealt with. But if anything this just gives the position most likely to coup greater ability to "legally" do so.