I'm speaking in my capacity as SPSF General and longest tenured extant member of SPSF (since mid-2016); my post should be taken as neither an endorsement nor critique of the proposal, but rather as a neutral summary of facts relevant to the proposal.

In the past, it hasn't happened that an operation that required WA-locking SPSF members elsewhere occurred during Delegate elections. Quite the contrary, SPSF would usually reserve those times specifically and even remind its members that the in-game vote is now taking place and that they are free to participate in it on their main nations if they wish. With respect to the occupation in Iran, it has just concluded and SPSF members have been told that they may withdraw their WA membership to their main nations in time for the conclusion of the Delegate election. This is the first time that a siege of those proportions have happened during Delegate elections, and typically sieges of this kind per year number in the single digits.

When this issue has been raised in the past, it had been said that SPSF members are usually Legislators as well, and therefore already have had their voice heard in the first round. During the Iran occupation, of the 9 SPSF members that were involved, 6 were Legislators eligible to vote in the first round of this Delegate election.

(This post was last modified: 01-15-2020, 02:15 AM by Roavin.)

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Realistically speaking how many people does this effect and how often is it likely to occur? I'm reluctant to complicate our processes and reduce the transparency of our elections unless this is a major issue.

I believe there are two gameside elections which this will impact — LC and Delegate.

However, after reading Roavin's observations and noting the likelihood of another Iran occurring in an election period, I am fine with holding back on this amendment until such time that we feel it is actually needed.

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I agree. After what Roavin has said, feel like this amendment should be held back.

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I believe there are two gameside elections which this will impact — LC and Delegate.

However, after reading Roavin's observations and noting the likelihood of another Iran occurring in an election period, I am fine with holding back on this amendment until such time that we feel it is actually needed.

I think that this bill is necessary just to cover all bases and make sure that an election wouldn't interrupt operations and vice versa.

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(This post was last modified: 01-15-2020, 03:01 AM by Jay Coop.)

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This is a good bill and one which I fully support. 

I think it would be better if we proceeded with the amendment now, rather than wait until the scenario for when it is needed does actually occur. That way, members of the SPSF need not worry about future deployments which might prevent them from going on missions, and the government will not need to rush coming up with accommodations then. Now, I may not be knowledgeable of SPSF's missions; how often they are conducted and for how long, etc, but I am also not certain that our men and women will not be needed for an extended period of time, whilst the region holds an election in the future. What I do know is that those serving TSP should be able to enjoy their right to vote and this amendment guarantees that.

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I would like to note that while I won't be personally motioning this amendment to a vote, others are more than welcome to do so or perhaps to come up with language which may be more suitable (I feel like the current amendment phrasing is a bit wonky haha).

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How would someone deployed in a non-embassy region post their vote on the RMB?

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Legislator in TSP | Active User of the RMB | Former Local Councillor | Member of The Ministry Of Regional Affairs

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How would someone deployed in a non-embassy region post their vote on the RMB?

I assume with a puppet nation residing in TSP.

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SPSF Soldiers are ordered to keep their main nation residing in TSP, and do their operations in other regions through puppet nations. So they would always have access to the TSP RMB with their verified TSP nation.

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I think we might as well have this legislation, just in case, given that in the situation where it might be needed, there wouldn't be time to ram through a change, so I'm going to motion this to vote.

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