So if such atmosphere prevails then working for MORA is slavery.

I’m pretty sure volunteering to do RA work doesn’t compare to slavery. 

I am not volunteering, I am doing civil service and it can't be compared to volunteering.

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If we want a RA division then I feel there should be one ministry, but deputy ministers shall lead that split [division] and give a monthly report to the Minister

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So if such atmosphere prevails then working for MORA is slavery.

I’m pretty sure volunteering to do RA work doesn’t compare to slavery.  

I am not volunteering, I am doing civil service and it can't be compared to volunteering. 

You are not paid in any mean, you are volunteering, MoRA does not hire or pay anyone, people who like to help just help.

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So if such atmosphere prevails then working for MORA is slavery.

I’m pretty sure volunteering to do RA work doesn’t compare to slavery.   

I am not volunteering, I am doing civil service and it can't be compared to volunteering.  

You are not paid in any mean, you are volunteering, MoRA does not hire or pay anyone, people who like to help just help. 

Yes I know that, but I will not say volunteering is appropriate, I will say its civil service whether paid or not

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So if such atmosphere prevails then working for MORA is slavery.

I’m pretty sure volunteering to do RA work doesn’t compare to slavery.   

I am not volunteering, I am doing civil service and it can't be compared to volunteering.  

You are not paid in any mean, you are volunteering, MoRA does not hire or pay anyone, people who like to help just help. 

Yes I know that, but I will not say volunteering is appropriate, I will say its civil service whether paid or not

Still, comparing it to slavery is very inappropriate. Please present detailed information on your claim about freedom restriction.

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For my part (and as someone who voted against all of the various split proposals when they came before the Assembly earlier this year), I'm still not sure what problem a split is purported to fix. Seems like one of the major concerns in the posts above is inactivity, so what would a split do to encourage greater activity? Are there any examples (maybe from other regions) where a different division of responsibilities has resulted in a more active community?

Inactivity seems (to me, at least) to be less of a problem with the structure of the ministry/ministries and more about the recruitment and retention of those involved. If anything, splitting the ministry into two (or more) entities might make that even more difficult, as well as a duplication of effort.

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For my part (and as someone who voted against all of the various split proposals when they came before the Assembly earlier this year), I'm still not sure what problem a split is purported to fix. Seems like one of the major concerns in the posts above is inactivity, so what would a split do to encourage greater activity? Are there any examples (maybe from other regions) where a different division of responsibilities has resulted in a more active community?

Inactivity seems (to me, at least) to be less of a problem with the structure of the ministry/ministries and more about the recruitment and retention of those involved. If anything, splitting the ministry into two (or more) entities might make that even more difficult, as well as a duplication of effort.

Split was never the main solution to solve inactivity. It is mostly to relieve pressure and to ensure efficiency on all aspects of MoRA. We tend to have one or two RA areas that are strong but the another one is weak for every term. Many regions with the split RA structure (The North Pacific is a prominent example, follow by Europeia back in their heydays) have very active RA. We and TWP are the only feeders where integration and culture is handled under one ministry. That said, a lot of people don't like to bring "uhhh those people do this better/worse than us" into these debates at all.

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2] Suppression of Freedom to carryout projects

WI, I hate to say this, but what you're saying is simply untrue.
You have proposed many different projects that Seraph and your colleagues shot down for various reasons - too big, lack of interest.
However, you kept proposing ideas, to the point where Seraph had to give you a hard 'stop doing this' because you had kept doing it even after he kindly told you to stop.

So I have to minister's order, assembly should keep this in records 'the fellows have to work on what minister asks them'

The Minister is the democratically elected head of the Ministry. I don’t know why it surprises you that they get to determine the direction of the projects agenda. That’s quite literally what they, not you, were elected to do.

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I agree with Whole India, we could have them under MoRA, but have separate ministers, kind of like SoS in MoFA. Or it could be split into Culture, Graphics, and Education.

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I agree with Whole India, we could have them under MoRA, but have separate ministers, kind of like SoS in MoFA. Or it could be split into Culture, Graphics, and Education.

"Ministers" implies that they have the same rank as the MoMA or MoFA. If this is what you mean, it means the dissolution of MoRA, and subjugating it under various different ministries. Plus, if you what you mean is "Deputies," it was already done under Jay's administration.

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