The main split I would probably advocate for is removing Media from MoRA and making it its own Ministry.

In regards to Deputies, they're good for managing work, but I don't necessarily think they should be appointed by the MoRA. If the Minister sees them fit, or just the only person who seemed worthy out of the ones that applied, or just the only one that applied, then we shouldn't judge the action. After all, the MoRA would have been elected meaning that we have some confidence in their ability to perform the work.

I feel Media should be under MORA, but the cabinet may appoint the deputies for all departments. Like many rejected my idea of elected deputies then I feel the MORA's Minister shall get applications for deputy position of respective department from various Fellows/Senior Fellows. He shall present all the applications to cabinet and show his suggested deputies and by majority the cabinet shall appoint the respective deputies for that term. 

I highly doubt the Cabinet would care about something that would happen in a singular Ministry with no effect to them. If the Assembly elected the MoRA, then they trust the MoRA to handle simple tasks such as electing a couple of deputies.

Also, I still stand by the idea that Media should be it's own Ministry. The reason being is that trying to have regular editions and issues of articles and creating interregional events and managing fellows can lead to burnout. If it was it's own thing, it would leaded by one person whose sole purpose it to churn out TSJs, and not also balance a few other stressful things at the same time. 

I also feel the same, but it should be within MORA like said appoint a deputy minister. I don't think we need seperate ministry

If a Deputy Minister is needed to run the Media, since it's too much for the MoRA, then why not just make it it's own Ministry?

The main split I would probably advocate for is removing Media from MoRA and making it its own Ministry.

In regards to Deputies, they're good for managing work, but I don't necessarily think they should be appointed by the MoRA. If the Minister sees them fit, or just the only person who seemed worthy out of the ones that applied, or just the only one that applied, then we shouldn't judge the action. After all, the MoRA would have been elected meaning that we have some confidence in their ability to perform the work.

I feel Media should be under MORA, but the cabinet may appoint the deputies for all departments. Like many rejected my idea of elected deputies then I feel the MORA's Minister shall get applications for deputy position of respective department from various Fellows/Senior Fellows. He shall present all the applications to cabinet and show his suggested deputies and by majority the cabinet shall appoint the respective deputies for that term.

I highly doubt the Cabinet would care about something that would happen in a singular Ministry with no effect to them. If the Assembly elected the MoRA, then they trust the MoRA to handle simple tasks such as electing a couple of deputies.

Also, I still stand by the idea that Media should be it's own Ministry. The reason being is that trying to have regular editions and issues of articles and creating interregional events and managing fellows can lead to burnout. If it was it's own thing, it would leaded by one person whose sole purpose it to churn out TSJs, and not also balance a few other stressful things at the same time.

Yeah. Maybe that split that Jay proposed like last year would be a good idea after all. Or, maybe a wild idea: we could reasonably just make the ministry a Ministry of Cultural Affairs, Ministry of Journalism Affairs, and a Department of integration? Where Cultural Affairs handles events and other cultural activities, Journalism handles TSJ, and then the department of integration handles like recruitment, education, etc? (As far as naming, we could also change the Military Affairs namr to "Defense Affairs" and do Media Affairs instead. But that's a superficial thing that can be discussed if we do decide to split the RA in a way where media is split from RA)

We could also perhaps even have Integration and OWL just be full on ministries too (Cabinet rep would then be 3 internal and 3 external, keeping both departments would be 2 internal and 2 external)

The full mandate would then me

MoFA: Handles our relations with other regions
MoMA: Handles SPSF and military affairs
MoCA: Handles regional events and promotes TSP culture
MoJA: Handles the Southern Journal and any other media projects the ministry decides to pursue
OWL/MoWA: Handles things related to World Assembly voting and advises on how to vote
<Integration department/ministry>: Handles recruitment for ministries and educating about this game

I don't want the complete dissolution of MoRA. I think the MoRA can very well handle Cultural and Integrational Affairs much better if the need to proof read TSJs and churn them out becomes a thing of the past.

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Deputy Minister of Educational Affairs (2/19/20 - 4/9/20)
Senior Fellow of Integration (12/20/20 - 2/19/20)
Fellow (1/12/19 - ~10/14/20) 
Ambassador to Osiris and TWP (4/3/20 - 7/8/20)
Legislator (1/19/19 - 11/1/21)
Chair of the Assembly (6/23/20 - 9/3/20)
Secretary of State (7/8/20 - 2/4/21 | 6/14/21 - 11/1/21) 
Deputy of Media (2/14/21 - 11/1/21)
Ambassador to TNP and Lazarus  (6/14/21 - 10/22/21)
MoE Leadership (10/14/20 - 11/1/21)

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I don't want the complete dissolution of MoRA. I think the MoRA can very well handle Cultural and Integrational Affairs much better if the need to proof read TSJs and churn them out becomes a thing of the past.

The reason Culture and Integration separated out imo is because both things are fairly different in mandate. I think it could be easier to handle separately rather than together.

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I don't want the complete dissolution of MoRA. I think the MoRA can very well handle Cultural and Integrational Affairs much better if the need to proof read TSJs and churn them out becomes a thing of the past.

The reason Culture and Integration separated out imo is because both things are fairly different in mandate. I think it could be easier to handle separately rather than together.

However, the definition of what the Integregrational Affairs does has always been rather vague. To this day, I'm still not sure what that department does specifically and what jobs would follow under the scope of "Helping newbies better understand TSP" as I've not seen much of that. Sure we have dispatches and such, but that seems about it. I'm probably wrong, but I don't see much from them. But anyway, having a Ministry solely dedicated to "Helping newbs" may seem to get boring and out-of-ideas rather quickly. In regards to Cultural, I don't see why we need to have a Ministry solely made for Events as that seems what Culutural does these days. Events only last a couple of days with the occasional/rare lasting a week. I don't think we need a Ministry to constantly plan events when we usually give them about a two week separation until the next one happens.

Local Councillor (3/15/20 - 6/23/20)
Deputy Minister of Educational Affairs (2/19/20 - 4/9/20)
Senior Fellow of Integration (12/20/20 - 2/19/20)
Fellow (1/12/19 - ~10/14/20) 
Ambassador to Osiris and TWP (4/3/20 - 7/8/20)
Legislator (1/19/19 - 11/1/21)
Chair of the Assembly (6/23/20 - 9/3/20)
Secretary of State (7/8/20 - 2/4/21 | 6/14/21 - 11/1/21) 
Deputy of Media (2/14/21 - 11/1/21)
Ambassador to TNP and Lazarus  (6/14/21 - 10/22/21)
MoE Leadership (10/14/20 - 11/1/21)

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I don't want the complete dissolution of MoRA. I think the MoRA can very well handle Cultural and Integrational Affairs much better if the need to proof read TSJs and churn them out becomes a thing of the past.

The reason Culture and Integration separated out imo is because both things are fairly different in mandate. I think it could be easier to handle separately rather than together.

However, the definition of what the Integregrational Affairs does has always been rather vague. To this day, I'm still not sure what that department does specifically and what jobs would follow under the scope of "Helping newbies better understand TSP" as I've not seen much of that. Sure we have dispatches and such, but that seems about it. I'm probably wrong, but I don't see much from them. But anyway, having a Ministry solely dedicated to "Helping newbs" may seem to get boring and out-of-ideas rather quickly. In regards to Cultural, I don't see why we need to have a Ministry solely made for Events as that seems what Culutural does these days. Events only last a couple of days with the occasional/rare lasting a week. I don't think we need a Ministry to constantly plan events when we usually give them about a two week separation until the next one happens.

I will just repeat my point on integration here. It is an infrastructure-providing ministry. Dispatches, guides, recruitment, graphics/themes,... belong to “infrastructure” as in you set it up in the first place then you maintain it and improve it later. The wording of the integration ministry amendment may need to be clearer on that front. You don’t see much of it though because we are so so terrible at it, the true workload of a proper integration plan or what integration is never realized (as I have witnessed rather wrong attempt at revising it in previous terms). Simply, because the MoRA is pre-occupied with media and events. They either have to dilute their effort and fail miserably at three or focus on one and fail the remaining.

That said, I think we can gracefully shut down the debate over the merit of a split now. Just put options up to vote.

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we could reasonably just make the ministry a Ministry of Cultural Affairs, Ministry of Journalism Affairs, and a Department of integration? Where Cultural Affairs handles events and other cultural activities, Journalism handles TSJ, and then the department of integration handles like recruitment, education, etc?

That is more TNP style and it just......... isn't appropriate.....

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If a Deputy Minister is needed to run the Media, since it's too much for the MoRA, then why not just make it it's own Ministry?

I have even better idea, we can make media a separate Department where the GOVT shall only give its Press Releases and rest of its content shall be independent. So we can make Ranks like Writer, Senior Writer, Editor, Senior Editor, Interviewer, Senior Interviewer and then Deputy Editor in chief and Editor in Chief and the senior members of all respective department shall elect a Deputy Editor in chief and Editor in Chief for every month. By this we can get a conductive atmosphere in the Department and if more people participate we can make more positions.

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we could reasonably just make the ministry a Ministry of Cultural Affairs, Ministry of Journalism Affairs, and a Department of integration? Where Cultural Affairs handles events and other cultural activities, Journalism handles TSJ, and then the department of integration handles like recruitment, education, etc?

That is more TNP style and it just......... isn't appropriate..... 

Why? Can you explain why that isn't appropriate?

Chief Supervising Armchair

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we could reasonably just make the ministry a Ministry of Cultural Affairs, Ministry of Journalism Affairs, and a Department of integration? Where Cultural Affairs handles events and other cultural activities, Journalism handles TSJ, and then the department of integration handles like recruitment, education, etc?

That is more TNP style and it just......... isn't appropriate.....  

Why? Can you explain why that isn't appropriate? 

Its just creating more Ministries and that means bigger cabinet and I don't feel its good.

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we could reasonably just make the ministry a Ministry of Cultural Affairs, Ministry of Journalism Affairs, and a Department of integration? Where Cultural Affairs handles events and other cultural activities, Journalism handles TSJ, and then the department of integration handles like recruitment, education, etc?

That is more TNP style and it just......... isn't appropriate.....  

Why? Can you explain why that isn't appropriate? 

Its just creating more Ministries and that means bigger cabinet and I don't feel its good.

Why bigger cabinet isn’t good? We are on the low end of the world in term of minister number.

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If a Deputy Minister is needed to run the Media, since it's too much for the MoRA, then why not just make it it's own Ministry?

I have even better idea, we can make media a separate Department where the GOVT shall only give its Press Releases and rest of its content shall be independent. So we can make Ranks like Writer, Senior Writer, Editor, Senior Editor, Interviewer, Senior Interviewer and then Deputy Editor in chief and Editor in Chief and the senior members of all respective department shall elect a Deputy Editor in chief and Editor in Chief for every month. By this we can get a conductive atmosphere in the Department and if more people participate we can make more positions.

We don't need a separate department to run announcements from the Gov't. I'm pretty sure the #announcements on the regional Discord is more than enough. The Media Ministry would be for production of TSJs only.

we could reasonably just make the ministry a Ministry of Cultural Affairs, Ministry of Journalism Affairs, and a Department of integration? Where Cultural Affairs handles events and other cultural activities, Journalism handles TSJ, and then the department of integration handles like recruitment, education, etc?

That is more TNP style and it just......... isn't appropriate.....  

Having a big Cabinet isn't a TNP concept. It's something that happens when a bunch of sub departments become too large to be run by one person even with Deputies.
Why? Can you explain why that isn't appropriate? 

Its just creating more Ministries and that means bigger cabinet and I don't feel its good.

Having a bigger Cabinet isn't dependent on whether or not someone likes it; it's dependent on whether it is necessary to help these Ministries reach their full potential.

Local Councillor (3/15/20 - 6/23/20)
Deputy Minister of Educational Affairs (2/19/20 - 4/9/20)
Senior Fellow of Integration (12/20/20 - 2/19/20)
Fellow (1/12/19 - ~10/14/20) 
Ambassador to Osiris and TWP (4/3/20 - 7/8/20)
Legislator (1/19/19 - 11/1/21)
Chair of the Assembly (6/23/20 - 9/3/20)
Secretary of State (7/8/20 - 2/4/21 | 6/14/21 - 11/1/21) 
Deputy of Media (2/14/21 - 11/1/21)
Ambassador to TNP and Lazarus  (6/14/21 - 10/22/21)
MoE Leadership (10/14/20 - 11/1/21)

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