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[DRAFT]Assembly Resolution on the Osiris-Lazarus War
#71

Either way we go we are going to offend somebody. There isn't a "tasteful" way to do it. I think what we have is gonna be the best we get to cover everything we wanna say.
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#72

(09-04-2014, 01:57 PM)southern bellz Wrote: So other allies you are able to publicly bicker with to the point relations were ruined, but this somehow crosses the line?

Which ally are you referring to? Also, this doesn't necessarily "cross the line" it's more like "put your egos aside and get over it"

#73

(09-04-2014, 02:02 PM)Penguin Wrote: Either way we go we are going to offend somebody. There isn't a "tasteful" way to do it. I think what we have is gonna be the best we get to cover everything we wanna say.

There's only one party that's relevant to TSP, here, and that's Lazarus. I just don't think it's right for us to be chastising them like a child, when it's Osiris that escalated things unreasonably. I don't think it's right to say that Lazarus and Osiris are of equal blame here, because the rhetoric was run of the mill stuff for NS Gameplay.

We can be neutral without trying to be the patronizing region that calls everybody else childish.
#74

(09-04-2014, 02:52 PM)Sandaoguo Wrote: I don't think it's right to say that Lazarus and Osiris are of equal blame here, because the rhetoric was run of the mill stuff for NS Gameplay.

We can be neutral without trying to be the patronizing region that calls everybody else childish.

Had one of them been the bigger region and taken the high road, there is a very good chance that this war doesn't happen. Just because Osiris escalated the situation doesn't take away the fact that if Lazarus had recognized the situation was going in that direction, and acted with tact, there's no war.

And don't read that statement wrong. I am not blaming Lazarus for starting the war. However, they are both equally responsible because they both engaged in rhetoric that lead to Osiris declaring war.

I also don't like the excuse of "that's how NS Gameplay is". Just because everyone is doing it doesn't make it any less antagonistic. I don't think the current draft of the Resolution is patronizing. I think it fairly states that both regions took part in mudslinging and that mudslinging caused a stupid and frivolous war to happen. I don't think we should downplay the reality of the situation just to make our friends think we're not mad at them. Personally, I am peeved at Lazarus, and as a region that preaches Peace, I think we all should be a little frustrated that our allies (albeit new-ish allies) fought fire with fire and are now in a war that could have been easily prevented.
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#75

If you guys want to be neutral, a heated statement chastising an ally isn't going to do the job. We'll be part of the political war, yet again trotted out by others to justify their own hostile actions.
#76

I prefer Glen-Rhodes's proposal and motion it to vote.
#77

I'm with Uni, Seconded

#78

We have a pre-existing version motioned and seconded.
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#79

(09-04-2014, 01:05 PM)Sandaoguo Wrote: My only concern is antagonizing an ally in a statement where we intend to take a neutral stance. I would really prefer not to "condemn" Lazarus.
The wording is not to condemn Lazarus (and Osiris) as a region, but the actions of high officials within the region.
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#80

(09-04-2014, 09:17 PM)Belschaft Wrote: We have a pre-existing version motioned and seconded.

The author proposed an edit of that version - which traditionally renders the motion null.




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