| Parole Board Made the Wrong Choice on Milograd |
(11-20-2014, 07:38 AM)Brutland and Norden Wrote: And since we are having some sort of political government simulation here, people can take action if they are unhappy with the government's decisions. People can toss out the parole board law in the first place. Or people can take their elected government ministers to account by tossing them out in the next election, which, by the way, is ongoing.True, but again a decision that affects everybody has been made without a wider consultation
I fought Milo on the ground, and I know for a fact that he never cared for this region or for it's populace. As this article details he was a manipulator. It was his grand scheme to take over this region, and his goal to torture and chain it. Letting him back in is the dumbest thing anyone could do. I don't care if he falls upon his knees. He couped this region, and he should be banned until NationStates itself ceases to exist.
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This revisionism about how Milograd never cared about the region and plotted his coup from the very start is bothering me. It is obviously false and a rather poor way of trying to distort history. Say what you want about his coup, but he was involved in the South Pacific for long before that, and he did care about it.
It's time we stopped trying to make Milograd our bogeyman and faced history as it really happened. Former Delegate of the South Pacific
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I don't think Milo planned it from the start, but you can't really tell at the end of the day when he is sincere and when he isn't. That's what happens when someone manipulates and lies, their character gets called into question.
Because of that we have a large range of opinions about when he is genuine or not genuine. And honestly, I don't know who is right about it and who is wrong.
The 16th Delegate of The South Pacific
(11-22-2014, 10:02 AM)southern bellz Wrote: That's what happens when someone manipulates and lies, their character gets called into question. Rightfully so, but we can't simply stay in the "question" part. In the end, it's just not right to claim how he's the bogeyman, because he is TSP's bogeyman. You (general you) just can't say that he never cared and that he always planned it. He obviously did care before the coup, at least a bit. Whatever he did in the end, that doesn't mean his previous actions didn't happen. Former Delegate of the South Pacific
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It should boil down to this:
Parole should not be granted based on that. We've been over this already: parole is not an instrument to benefit or do the region's will, we could simply have an Assembly pardon if we wanted that. Parole is about the criminal being ready to make amends with the region.
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(11-22-2014, 12:48 PM)Kris Kringle Wrote: Parole should not be granted based on that. We've been over this already: parole is not an instrument to benefit or do the region's will, we could simply have an Assembly pardon if we wanted that. Parole is about the criminal being ready to make amends with the region. Your response perfectly illustrates why the present policy is not fit for purpose. The primary objective of any government is the well being and prosperity of those it represents. If the legislation and procedures laid down loose site of that fact, then we are prone to following bureaucracy for bureaucracy's sake It might also be appropriate to ask who instigated this review? Has Milograd requested it, or has simply been bought about because a Parole Board has recently been established? If the latter, as stated elsewhere, considering there is only one case that the board could consider why was there a need to create the Board in the first place?
Milograd requested it as soon as legislation passed.
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