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Poll: How might we be able to re-establish trust and security in our region?
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All new and recent citizen applicants complete one active term in the Fellowship program before gaining voting rights
33.33%
2 33.33%
All citizens should be required to complete at least one term in the Fellowship Program before gaining voting rights
16.67%
1 16.67%
I will offer another proposal in thread
50.00%
3 50.00%
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Re-establishment of Trust Post the OBT Incident
#21

TNP has no second class citizens. TNP has a system were people can choose to sign up as "citizens" rather than voting Regional Assembly members.

Doing so allows you to be part of the government, but not subject to the activity laws the RA has to deal with. A good option for people who want a voice, but don't have the time to be active.

No one is forced to become a citizen, there is no "downgrading" a RA member to citizen other than due to a lack of activity. Additionally, TNP Citizens have a ton more rights, like being able to politically lobby the Regional Assembly, than TSP Residents while having the exact same requirements for membership, a nation in the region.

At any time they like, a citizen can apply to the RA, and Regional Assembly rejections are very rare. So rare, in fact, The North Pacific has had only 2 in the past 3 years, and both of those were overturned shortly thereafter. This is compared to the four citizenship denials (Neenee, Cormac, Dalimbar, and BGP) TSP has had in the past two months.

Comparing apples to oranges, although I don't oppose giving Residents more rights.
#22

Since so much has been placed on participation in the "Fellowship program", can the current cabinet explain how much has even been done? I've seen two or three running all the spotlights and news for MoRA, but has anything been done besides that limited section?
#23

(03-15-2015, 02:23 PM)Wolf Wrote: TNP has no second class citizens. TNP has a system were people can choose to sign up as "citizens" rather than voting Regional Assembly members.

Doing so allows you to be part of the government, but not subject to the activity laws the RA has to deal with. A good option for people who want a voice, but don't have the time to be active.

No one is forced to become a citizen, there is no "downgrading" a RA member to citizen other than due to a lack of activity. Additionally, TNP Citizens have a ton more rights, like being able to politically lobby the Regional Assembly, than TSP Residents while having the exact same requirements for membership, a nation in the region.

At any time they like, a citizen can apply to the RA, and Regional Assembly rejections are very rare. So rare, in fact, The North Pacific has had only 2 in the past 3 years, and both of those were overturned shortly thereafter. This is compared to the four citizenship denials (Neenee, Cormac, Dalimbar, and BGP) TSP has had in the past two months.

Comparing apples to oranges, although I don't oppose giving Residents more rights.
That sounds like a class system.
In TSP, all it takes to be in government is citizenship. Over there, it seems you have to apply for two separate things, and you don't explain how the RA members are chosen. I don't see how this is better than Escade's idea.
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#24

For the record, Dali himself said he would have been just as suspicious had the roles been reversed.

Dalimbar Wrote:Having been on the other side of citizenship decisions, if a rush of suspicious people suddenly came by, then I'd be concerned.

#25

How about instead of the Fellowship Program, we force prospective citizens to partake in the South Pacific Special Forces in any capacity the can reasonably manage?

Service guarantees citizenship.

More true to the book, too. Tounge
#26

Let me remind everyone that the Fellowship Programme is a thread where anyone with a nation in the region can apply for different jobs, or be advised on how those jobs work. Options include the Assembly, the Diplomatic Service, the Special Forces and the Ministry of Regional Affairs.
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#27

It's hilarious when Wolf posts that but hadn't actually read the Fellowship Program thread. Try knowing the region a little better, it might save you some trouble.

Farengeto, there's a lot to do in the Fellowship Program actually, its pretty flexible.

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#28

The Fellowship Program, as a whole, is under the MoRA,

The SPSF, specifically, is under the MoA.

I have more faith in our MoA than I do the MoRA. Call me a militant purist. Tounge
#29

MoRa is our most thriving ministry so to disregard it would be to disregard that it has the most connection whether directly or indirectly to the community.

The thread is here, perhaps you should acquaint yourselves with it:
http://thesouthpacific.x10.mx/thread-928.html

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#30

(03-15-2015, 03:31 PM)Escade Wrote: Farengeto, there's a lot to do in the Fellowship Program actually, its pretty flexible.

A lot you can do, but how much are they actually doing?




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