| The Lampshade Accords [The South Pacific-Spiritus] |
Actually, the clause was my doing. The template which features that clause, is my doing. In fact the entire treaty is my doing with some minor amendments and edits from their side.
Kindly direct your attacks on the structure and contents of the treaty to me. Although I warn you in advance you may as well talk to a brick wall because I really don't have it in me to care - clock is ticking for the elections and I am nearly free of what is probably the biggest mistake I've ever made in this horrific game.
Raven, literally any time somebody doesn't approve 100% of anything involving you, that's your stock response. That or you threaten to resign.
I'm not going to "attack" you. I'm going to critique the proposed treaty and request changes, as that's the whole purpose of the required Assembly debate.
I do think the MoFA could be a bit more flexible about the particulars of the treaty text. Nobody here is denying Spiritus wouldn't be a good ally.
You haven't seen some of the comments in the cabinet irc channel that I had the pleasure of reading this morning. I love seeing (someone, 3 guesses who, first two don't count) saying the cabinet needs to give me a slap. Between that, being called a thick-headed prick amongst other things, I'm very glad to see this term pass.
(03-03-2015, 07:31 PM)Lord Ravenclaw Wrote: You haven't seen some of the comments in the cabinet irc channel that I had the pleasure of reading this morning. I love seeing (someone, 3 guesses who, first two don't count) saying the cabinet needs to give me a slap. Between that, being called a thick-headed prick amongst other things, I'm very glad to see this term pass. Raven, you could be more flexible over the terms of this agreement - there's quite lot of concern and opposition to some of the wording - and that's all it is: wording. Wording is flexible, people's concerns aren't.
It should be noted that others in Spritius's public debate have noted the exact same problems we've simultaneously noted with the current text...
- The re-ratification period - A lack of clarification over how re-ratification even legally works. - Mandated raids. - An inclusion of the delegates names in the text. .... if neither region's citizens are particularly pleased with the text, then surely we could find something that would broadly be more accepted.
Here would be my suggestions for changing Article 4....
4. The South Pacific and Spiritus may choose to conclude this formal relationship at any time by giving a minimum of 14 days notice to either party via the embassy of the respective party on their forum. 4.1 This document will need to be formally repealed by the Legislatures of each either signatory. (If TSP wants out of the agreement, we should be able to leave the agreement without Spiritus's approval) 4.2 Both signatories should endeavour to seek a solution to any issues that arise before seeking an conclusion to the Accord. They pledge to resolve any differences in a peaceful and non-confrontational manner and will not threaten or force either side to adhere to their wishes. 4.3 This Treaty will come into effect once ratified by the Assembly of the South Pacific and the Regional Assembly of Spiritus following a signing ceremony as mentioned in 3.2. 4.4 This treaty shall expire 12 months (one calendar year) from ratification, by both parties unless it is renewed by both signatories within that time period following a gathering shall gather to discuss the relationship and ensure there is communication between both parties. (I'm suggesting a Mandatory Summit, not Mandatory Re-Ratification) 4.5 This treaty will be considered null and void should the Coalition of the South Pacific or the Elemental Republic of Spiritus cease to exist without any named successor governments, subject to re-ratification by successor authorities as necessary.
Seems to me there is another thread active at this time about ghost treaties that people have forgotten about. Seems to me a yearly Re-Ratification prevents this if nothing else.
Seems to me that this isn't necessary to prevent that. It hasn't been necessary with quite a lot of our allies. It'd be a hassle of a political arrangement.
You mean it would be easier to just sign it and pack it away until it's either repealed or forgotten
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