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The Lampshade Accords [The South Pacific-Spiritus]
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#31
03-04-2015, 12:40 AM

Let's face it, guys. This is a defender treaty. In the history of TSP, we've had far more governments overtly or implicitly anti-defender. Having this treaty put on the chopping block every year, to be saved only by a supermajority, is reckless. I have no clue why Spiritus would even accept that clause during negotiations. I certainly wouldn't have done so. And I don't think we should be introducing such gambling into what are supposed to be long-term relationships.
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#32
03-04-2015, 01:00 AM

Even without that clause, what's to stop anti-defenders from putting it up for repeal anyways? Either way it could still happen, so your argument is moot.
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#33
03-04-2015, 09:25 AM

The offending clauses must be removed or watching this fail will be amusing.
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#34
03-04-2015, 01:48 PM

(03-04-2015, 12:35 AM)TAC Wrote: You mean it would be easier to just sign it and pack it away until it's either repealed or forgotten Tounge

Lots of our treaties don't work this way.
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#35
03-04-2015, 02:05 PM

I actually think I'm still a citizen of Spritus and do think they would make a great ally (they have a lot of fun people there).

However, the treaty has a bit too many loopholes that Kris and Tac have pointed out. I will take a look at the Spiritus side of the debate when I have time this week.

Our treaties should be valuable to our allies and to us.

Unibot, if the re-ratification period was changed to two years would that work for you?

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#36
03-04-2015, 05:30 PM

I don't see anything wrong with this treaty at all. I mean I don't like the wording of it meaning I just think you could use simpler words but I think it's good enough.
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#37
03-04-2015, 05:56 PM

If Spiritus wants to change it we should. We need an update on their discussion so we can progress.
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#38
03-04-2015, 11:40 PM

FA will be speaking to Spiritus' FA minister sometime tomorrow and comparing feedback. We will then work on suggested amendments from both sides and try to make a document that works.
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03-05-2015, 11:34 AM

Excellent, good to hear.
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#40
03-09-2015, 12:01 PM

Any word on this? Smile




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