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(05-27-2018, 05:43 PM)The Serres Republic Wrote: The facts are this, regardless of what happens here all four of you are going to have a hard time being re elected. It has come to light that toxicity has entered our government at the highest levels. The 50:50 split of ideaology is unfortunate but not the issue here. The issue is minister behaviour. While it is most likely true that Roavin is speaking from a biased position, I cannot in good faith believe that Tim and Escade are completely innocent here. I would say that all four of you have breach a very basic trust that we legislators afford your our ministers. It is your unspoken duty to put your agendas aside and work with eachother to protect tsp. You have broken that ideal with your behaviour. And unless I see at the very least a show of accountability in this thread from each of you. I for one will not be supporting any of your re election campaigns in the coming election. I disagree that it's any sort of specific ideological split. I think all four members of the cabinet are capable enough to be dictated by individual motivations and reasonings rather than guided by an ideology. I'm able to own up to how I run things. Yeah, I'm a pretty agressive player, because there's things and causes I'm passionate about, and I'll stand my ground and fight on them. Cooperation is a two-way street. At numerous points, I acted agressively within the boundaries of my powers because I felt that the Prime Minister was attempting to go around the FA Ministry or keep it out of the loop on critical FA developments. At times, I did not see an effort from the Prime Minister to involve the Foreign Ministry until after I took more agressive measures. While the PM is the Head of Government, the Charter makes clear where FA power is invested in, and while I'll admit I acted disrespectfully towards the Prime Minister at times, I felt similarly disrespected. I admit I could have maybe applied a more tactful manner of conflict resolution, but one of my biggest frustrations is when people go behind my back, so I was rather incensed on the topic. Roavin is also being far from accurate on some elements. My opposition to Cormac's involvement was not absolute, and it's really disengenious that he is saying that. My opposition was to Cormac being in a leadership role within the Liberation, something I would think is a more than reasonable stance to have given his history both with The South Pacific and across Nationstates. Roavin continuously kept pushing for and defending Cormac, so I did what I could to actually preserve our Coalition's ideals. While Cormac has plenty of experience, he could contribute to the liberation without being leadership, and ended up doing that just fine. The liberation sure as hell wasn't "nearly derailed" due to it. Furthermore, Roavin is incorrect about when I was involved, as I knew about the plan prior to the reclamation of the delegacy, and also presented the stance regarding Cormac well in advance of the delegacy being reclaimed. If you want to sin me for being at-times inactive, that's fair. It's been a hectic four months, between losing internet for a month, losing power for a bit, rent troubles, and other matters I won't be getting into. I still think we've seen stuff accomplished, and I've been really proud of the work which has been done. I wish I could have had more consistent levels of activity, but I'd rather lapse in activity than lapse in RL. I'll likely have more to expand on later tonight, as I'm writing this from work on my phone during periods of downtime, but I wanted to get an initial post out.
I have yet to see a single admittance of fault from any cabinet ministers. I would like the assembly to take that into account in the upcoming election.
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Currently 'The Future Greatest and Most Splendid General of All TSP.' I know you all look forward to when I complete my grand quest ;P. Official ‘Most Dedicated Raider’ in all of TSP. Look at me all evil and shtuff ;P Heck I was MoFA, Now Im PM. I must be loved owo (05-27-2018, 07:05 PM)The Serres Republic Wrote: I have yet to see a single admittance of fault from any cabinet ministers. I would like the assembly to take that into account in the upcoming election.In all fairness, I think both Roavin and Tim both expressed awareness that they have flaws and that mistakes were made on their parts. (05-27-2018, 06:53 PM)Pencil Sharpeners Wrote: I have some questions for the Cabinet. 1. Not particularly 2. I still don't think it's an unworkable Cabinet. I think we've been functional, despite differences. 3. I think there's been a collective struggle to remedy problems, but I also think a problem in that is a failure to communicate the issues. I had no idea Roavin had this strong of feelings, and I cannot think of an instance in which these problems have been genuinely conveyed. 4. No, this blindsided me. Had I known Roavin harbored issues to this scale, I would have certainly attempted to resolve the conflict in a productive and rational manner. Unfortunately, this is the first time I've seen grievances presented by Roavin on this significant of a scale. (05-27-2018, 05:29 PM)Amerion Wrote: I am disappointed that this motion is being filed so close to the election. While no one outside Cabinet can say with certainty whether it is merited, the timing of it suggest great political damage to all those involved and that is rather saddening. I agree and one wonders at the intent of this now. (05-27-2018, 07:05 PM)The Serres Republic Wrote: I have yet to see a single admittance of fault from any cabinet ministers. I would like the assembly to take that into account in the upcoming election. I would say that things have gotten heated in both the TSP cabinet and the TSP\Joint channel. We're still working on it. I have also admitted beforehand that NSGP was a rough place for me in the beginning. I got the brunt of the years of vitriol that is directed towards our region(and that you should see for yourself in our embassy threads) and had to learn, on the job, how to respond to it. Let's be clear one of the puppets "The Honest Defender" that was attacking me on NSGP was identity outed because of how far they went with their trolling\etc against us. I actually admitted to making mistakes in the FA server and am disappointed that Roavin has basically brought up a list of things both petty and personal from over a year ago. It's really a disservice to the ways people have grown and attempted to improve in this game. If you look at the actual things I've accomplished, they have been great for the region and the ministry in every position I've held. And I have held almost all of them. I myself am passionate as well and will try the nice way twice or thrice before just being blunt. It's my nature to be upfront. Have I not gotten along with people? Yes. That's true of any region and set of players. Have I used that in some way to harm TSP. Nope. Am I expected to get along with everyone? No one in the cabinet can claim that they get along with everyone. During this festival I spent countless hours working to make everything happen behind the scenes including staying up till 3am during exams, if I was snappy to someone because of that sure I was imperfect and also willing to apologize if we could communicate it out. However, not everyone is willing to communicate it out or accept their end of the blame. The cabinet has worked though some of things. As for the AJ and the Leg Com, I would say I have pushed and pushed at people to stop dawdling and make decisions. So I'll reiterate the two roles that I've played for the majority of this cabinet are 1. Peace maker\helping people understand things and 2. Lighting fires to get people moving on things that are being delayed. Sometimes the latter isn't the most nicest because otherwise we would have no appointees whatsoever. That's the honest truth. I'd also like to point out TNP and how among the cabinet, I took a lead role in actually speaking to our allies while Roavin was ready to end our alliance without talking to their leadership. That's the same problem here - the lack of honest communication as this was a complete blindside to me. When it comes to TSP, I do the best for the region that I can as a passionate and straight-forward person. I will get to PS2s questions in a bit, need to eat. Escade ~ Positions Held in TSP ~ Delegate | Vice Delegate Minister of Regional Affairs, | Minister of Foreign Affairs | Minister of Military Affairs ~ The Sparkly One ~ My Pinterest
I should note that we've appointed Serres as special advisor for the purposes of evaluating conflicting claims from individual ministers. Serres has access to #cabinet-office now.
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(05-27-2018, 07:26 PM)Escade Wrote: I'd also like to point out TNP and how among the cabinet, I took a lead role in actually speaking to our allies while Roavin was ready to end our alliance without talking to their leadership. That's the same problem here - the lack of honest communication as this was a complete blindside to me. When it comes to TSP, I do the best for the region that I can as a passionate and straight-forward person. I will get to PS2s questions in a bit, need to eat. (I'll respond to other stuff later, possibly tomorrow, but this is so egregious that I have to speak out immediately, plus this is something that Serres will not see since it's in the Situation Room and not the regular Cabinet Office.) This is a lie. Yes, you and Glen approached them directly, and I'm thankful for that, but all I did was bring it up to the Cabinet for consideration, since I was approached about it.
(05-27-2018, 07:31 PM)Amerion Wrote:(05-27-2018, 07:27 PM)Roavin Wrote: I should note that we've appointed Serres as special advisor for the purposes of evaluating conflicting claims from individual ministers. Serres has access to #cabinet-office now.Was this appointment within the last day? Literally minutes ago.
(05-27-2018, 07:33 PM)Roavin Wrote:(05-27-2018, 07:26 PM)Escade Wrote: I'd also like to point out TNP and how among the cabinet, I took a lead role in actually speaking to our allies while Roavin was ready to end our alliance without talking to their leadership. That's the same problem here - the lack of honest communication as this was a complete blindside to me. When it comes to TSP, I do the best for the region that I can as a passionate and straight-forward person. I will get to PS2s questions in a bit, need to eat. Actually, I approached them directly after you presented a very scary option regarding relations with them without talking to any of them at all. In fact, they were completely surprised at your lack of approach and I can quote DMs from the relevant channels if needed. I asked Glenn to help because I thought he would be a cooler head, although I could have asked Tsunamy or anyone else that I thought would look at this reasonably. So again, you seem to choose to degrade my contributions because it doesn't suit you to acknowledge them. Escade ~ Positions Held in TSP ~ Delegate | Vice Delegate Minister of Regional Affairs, | Minister of Foreign Affairs | Minister of Military Affairs ~ The Sparkly One ~ My Pinterest |
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