You are being insincere NHC, while you were eliminated in the Second preliminary poll, you still announced your candidacy to the Local Council.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=131647

You cannot get eliminated in the second preliminary poll. That's not how the LC elections work.
EDIT: Okay, I'm completely wrong here. I'm thinking of the main polls. For the record, I did not get eliminated because I had enough votes to not get eliminated, but I forfeited after the second main poll because the LC would have zero cooperation if it had both me and Slab on it, something I could only tell because the aforementioned offensive posts from Slab were before the end of the second main poll:

If anything, Slab is being disrespectful towards me, as this post, this post, and this post were offensive and disrespectful (to me). Note that me being American is relevant here.

However, me running for LC is not important. It doesn't matter, if I had won but still had the posts suppressed (which I'm not sure is actually possible...) then we would still be here. If I didn't even run in the first place then we would still be here.

how am i even still a legislator at this point...?

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You are being insincere NHC, while you were eliminated in the Second preliminary poll, you still announced your candidacy to the Local Council.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=131647

You cannot get eliminated in the second preliminary poll. That's not how the LC elections work.   

And that is irrelevant, You were in the second preliminary poll of the LC. The Election Commissioner, Pencil Sharpener states, "The lowest scoring 6 candidates from across both this poll and the previous one will be eliminated" Which means that if you had been part of the lowest six scoring candidates then you would have been eliminated in that poll.

However, upon checking Main polls 1 & 2 of the Local Council elections, Your name is clearly listed as an option. Therefore, you the evidence still shows that you were a Local Council candidate.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=131897
https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=132081

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You are being insincere NHC, while you were eliminated in the Second preliminary poll, you still announced your candidacy to the Local Council.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=131647

You cannot get eliminated in the second preliminary poll. That's not how the LC elections work.     

And that is irrelevant, You were in the second preliminary poll of the LC. The Election Commissioner, Pencil Sharpener states, "The lowest scoring 6 candidates from across both this poll and the previous one will be eliminated" Which means that if you had been part of the lowest six scoring candidates then you would have been eliminated in that poll.

However, upon checking Main polls 1 & 2 of the Local Council elections, Your name is clearly listed as an option. Therefore, you the evidence still shows that you were a Local Council candidate.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=131897
https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=132081  

How is that relevant though? I'm not saying I wasn't a candidate. How is anything about me running for LC even relevant? Notice my edit btw...
http://tspforums.xyz/thread-6631-post-17...#pid178271

how am i even still a legislator at this point...?

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I'm saying your assertion about how the Local Council election works is irrelevant. You implied that your name was not on the ballot, but your name was clearly on the ballot for much of the elections hence why I said you are being insincere.

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NHC: you made the RMB a personal RP debate playground - for hours! And now you are filing a frivolous complaint that the LC should never have the power to reign your abuse of the RMB.

You're complaining about debate, despite the fact that NationStates is literally about politics. The RMB Etiquette guide specifically allows debate:

Debates are cool. We here at TSP like it.

In fact, you've pointed out another way that Concrete Slab is suppressing legal posts, not to mention that he was also a part of this debate but only suppressed the posts of the opposition. If he suppresses debate, then his posts also should've been suppressed.

Your persistent unjustified criticism is simply a form of bullying that should not be indulged by the court, or our community.

I see so many problems with this one quote.
- It is very justified. I've provided evidence.
- Having an opinion is not bullying.
- Legitimate political debate is not bullying.
- If this is to be considered bullying, then so it every other criminal complaint.
- I, once again, would like to state that I believe Slab is bullying me.

The RMB Guidelines do not justify you being completely rude and disrespectful...

This is a point that can be used against Slab.
Also, see my previous list of bullet points.

...dominating the RMB with your roleplay debate ad nauseum.

That's not a valid point. While I believe it is untrue, nothing makes it illegal unless it's actual spam, which it isn't.

Your name was on the ballot.

Are you sure about that?
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No your point was to take a quote on an unrelated topic, and trying to present it as relevant to you having a post suppressed 11 days later. It is not relevant: it's frivolous and unjustified.

The relevance of it is that Slab is complaining that I'm not doing something he told me to not do 

After being asked 4 times to move your roleplay you continued to hold a 7 page "political debate" about the whether or not the Venom-like sybiote powers of a cloned fox constituted god-modding, the finer points of said powers and weaknesses, and whether or not your drill reached a decibel level reached megahertz comparable to an MRI machine...  yes, what a scintillating "political debate".  I found it as enjoyable a two drunks in bar loudly debating and then getting upset when people asked them to keep it down.

I don't see how asking players to "pipe down" does not reach the level of criminal corruption.  A Local Councilor is elected to also use their judgement, not be a mindless bot. 

So you are now alleging bullying, in addition to criminal corruption?  

How exactly to you feel that using my puppets briefly suppressed post as part of your "evidence of corruption".   I didn't feel in any way victimized by this local councilors action.  I would read it as an appropriate use of the LC suppression power, which, as anyone can read, resulting in me editing the said post and the removal of suppression, which we both handled with humor and understanding.

Was your long roleplay discussion illegal?  No.  Was it rude and meriting suppression?  Yes, absolutely.

And not that it matters, but Yes, your name was on the ballot in the preliminary round, LC round 1 and LC round 2.  You are listed as a candidate.  So yes, I am sure that your name was on the ballot.  

CS is not the one complaining.

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My apologies your honor, and I also apologize for the lack of proper formatting as I am using a mobile device at this time

The complainant has an established history of attempting to use the courts as a means to retaliate against the local council. NHC has done so twice against then local councilor Auphelia, over the suppression of his double posts, and is now repeating his accusations over Concrete Slab’s Suppression of excessive roleplaying posts. See threads Auphelia is Corrupt & Auphelia is corrupt {2}.

Your honor, despite the Defendants poor choice of words there is no evidence that Concrete Slab acted in a corrupt manner as shown by Beepee and Volaworand. I humbly urge that the courts also take into account the history of the complainant’s actions before issuing a verdict.


Auphelia is corrupt: http://tspforums.xyz/thread-6285.html
Auphelia is corrupt {2}: http://tspforums.xyz/thread-6301.html

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After being asked 4 times to move your roleplay you continued to hold a 7 page "political debate" about the whether or not the Venom-like sybiote powers of a cloned fox constituted god-modding, the finer points of said powers and weaknesses, and whether or not your drill reached a decibel level reached megahertz comparable to an MRI machine...  yes, what a scintillating "political debate".  I found it as enjoyable a two drunks in bar loudly debating and then getting upset when people asked them to keep it down.

Was your long roleplay discussion illegal? No. Was it rude and meriting suppression? Yes, absolutely.

That discussion is not even what's being talked about. If I recall correctly, that happened after the posts that were suppressed.

I don't see how asking players to "pipe down" does not reach the level of criminal corruption. A Local Councilor is elected to also use their judgement, not be a mindless bot.

That's not even what it is. He was suppressing my views for no other reason than because they weren't his.

Oh, and in response to Frost's post, it would basically be repetition if I actually gave a legitimate response. I've already explained why I believe Slab to be corrupt.

how am i even still a legislator at this point...?

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Your Honor,

I wish to motion for leave to file an amicus curiae brief on HCCC1802, New Haudenosaunee Confederacy v. Concrete Slab.

Further noting the Court's strong encouragement for the public to only provide "meaningful contributions to the Court, in terms of relevant testimony or legal arguments," I would like to further note that I intend for my brief to focus on legal arguments, and I intend to refrain from discussing any matters not pertaining to the legal aspects of this case.

Wherefore, I respectfully request that this Court grant leave to file an amicus curiae brief regarding HCCC1802.

Respectfully submitted,
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Your Honor,

Following the posting of the complainant and the testimony by the accused I hereby submit my testimony as the complainant's counsel. I will be using the same abbreviations as Beepee.

Let me start off with the first allegations by New Haudenosaunee Confederacy. This post was suppressed by the accused. It clearly shows no illegal Regional Message Board roleplay, and just NHC making points to Concrete Slab. As such, it should have not been suppressed whatsoever. This is in violation of article 2.2 of the Charter, which states that all South Pacificans have the right of "The freedom of speech, including the freedom of expression and the press." Concrete Slab suppressing a post that is not illegal and is only criticizing him is in clear violation of this article. This post has NHC continuing the roleplay, but with a different player then the roleplay had started. NHC was valid to continue this roleplay, as, quoting the current RMB etiquette dispatch,

 "RP is currently allowed on the TSP RMB."

This shows Concrete Slab was, in fact, suppressing these later posts, because they called him out and did not agree with him. This is in violation of the Charter, as previously mentioned above.

Now, I bring up another point related to the suppression: As a native of the RMB, I have seen many, many, roleplays go beyond the limit of 5 posts (Example: This roleplay, which goes 7 posts long and involves Concrete Slab, This roleplay, which goes 8 posts long, and This roleplay, which goes an incredible 103 posts long, maybe more, and which Concrete Slab was online for and didn't do anything about.) including many of that of Concrete Slabs', which is what Concrete Slab claims is the law. Almost all of these roleplays have not been suppressed. So why is New Haudenosaunee Confederacy's post suppressed? Is it maybe because many RMB members have seen New Haudenosaunee Confederacy as annoying in the past? Maybe because New Haudenosaunee Confederacy announced his public support of Auphelia in an Local Council election of Concrete Slab, which maybe caused Concrete Slab to have hatred of NHC, or even against CS' endorsed opponent of Auphelia, Aidenfieeld? The next point I come to is one Concrete Slab made in his first testimony. This is that  

 I am still new at this, it's only my first week, and I suppressed his next two posts just to get back at him and under his skin. In no way am I corrupt, I only have the best interests of TSP in mind. 

Now, Concrete Slab uses the excuse of having little LC experience. This is true. However, Concrete Slab was founded January 25, 2018, and therefore has almost 11 months of being a regular on the RMB. You would think, especially after the chaos during Auphelia's term, would know the rules of the RMB by heart and know what's suppressible and not suppressible, yet he still uses this "New on the job" excuse.
I am disappointed if we elected a Local Councillor who doesn't know the rules of the RMB.

Finally, Concrete Slab says that he has the best interests of TSP in mind. I am pretty sure suppressing posts that critique you are not within the best interests of the South Pacific. If Concrete Slab did  have the best interests of TSP in mind, he would enforce the rule he enforced so hard on NHC on all of the citizens of TSP, and would have been aghast by the 103 post roleplay. But he wasn't.
This evidence clearly shows Concrete Slab has it out for New Haudenosaunee Confederacy and only chooses to enforce the rules when it is against NHC. This is a clear conflict of interest and a singling out of one of the RMB's most valuable community members, and shows that NHC's claims of corruption are valid.

I thank you for your time, Your Honor.

Midwesterner. Political nerd. Chipotle enthusiast. 
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