He is not even a resident of TSP so how the hell he is a citizen is beyond me.

Last I checked he did in fact have a resident nation in TSP, and he is a citizen for the exact same reason you are...

He applied for it

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If we were to defend Lazarus we would have no choice but to get involved with the war. I do think we should help Lazarus but Osiris will not take this lightly.

We do have a choice. That is the point of this thread, to see what are our options.

2:Osiris is has been prodding us with a stick for far too long. I mean Cormac is trying to get OUR MOFA removed he is not even a resident of TSP so how the hell he is a citizen is beyond me.

I would sure like a list of times Osiris has been "prodding us with a stick for far too long", because I can't imagine what you are talking about. Cormac is a citizen of the South Pacific, please don't make up facts.

Osiris and Balder have joint armies with the two of them Lazarus will stand no chance. Though we must help Lazarus if we send troops there we will be dragged into the war.

That is completely false. Lazarus stands a good chance against Osiris, if we are talking about the chances of ISRA alone trying to overtake Funkadelia.

It is unavoidable and soon we will be forced into that war and I can see it becoming very big. So we must ask our self are we going to join the war now and help our friend

It is not unavoidable. Both the Cabinet and the Assembly seem to favour a policy of neutrality, at least unless it is strictly necessary to intervene. Personally, I favour staying out of the conflict unless we see that the Lazarene delegacy is in grave danger, which is different to say that we should outright go to war.

or are we going to turn a blind eye upon our friend and see thousands of nations placed under a dictatorship and wait until we are forced into the war ?

I have no idea what you mean by "see thousands of nations placed under a dictatorship". You seem to think that Lazarus is somehow a frail regime with no allies against the joint might of Osiris and Balder. The truth is that both regions have numerous allies, and that this conflict won't be some David vs. Goliat encounter. If Osiris somehow did overthrow the PRL, I also doubt they would put Lazarus under a dictatorial regime, unless you have some kind of privileged access to Osiris, that is.

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And it's not like the nations in Lazarus aren't already living in a dictatorship anyway

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He is not even a resident of TSP so how the hell he is a citizen is beyond me.

Last I checked he did in fact have a resident nation in TSP, and he is a citizen for the exact same reason you are...

He applied for it

A puppet nation not a real nation. Stop being sarcastic it this that means I get annoyed at you.

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Is this a nation?: The Holy Order of the Cake Crusaders? It sure seems like it to me.


Well, it's a puppet of mine. Explain how this makes it not real.

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If we were to defend Lazarus we would have no choice but to get involved with the war. I do think we should help Lazarus but Osiris will not take this lightly.

Kringle said: We do have a choice. That is the point of this thread, to see what are our options.

We do have a choice what I am saying is that if we chose to help Lazarus we will be directly involved.

2:Osiris is has been prodding us with a stick for far too long. I mean Cormac is trying to get OUR MOFA removed he is not even a resident of TSP so how the hell he is a citizen is beyond me.

Kringle said: I would sure like a list of times Osiris has been "prodding us with a stick for far too long", because I can't imagine what you are talking about. Cormac is a citizen of the South Pacific, please don't make up facts.

I may have gone a little bit over the top to get the point across. Also I think you mean making up fibs a fact is something that is real so by say don't make up facts you are saying that I am right. Where as if you say don't make up fibs it means it is fake. Also Cormac is in change of Osiris he has a puppet nation here I do not see why they should have citizenship if his main account is not here.

Osiris and Balder have joint armies with the two of them Lazarus will stand no chance. Though we must help Lazarus if we send troops there we will be dragged into the war.

Kringle said: That is completely false. Lazarus stands a good chance against Osiris, if we are talking about the chances of ISRA alone trying to overtake Funkadelia.

Yes they sand a chance ageist Osiris but as I said they have a joint army with Balder, and even if Balder does not get directly involved some members of the army will believe that they must join the war and others will most likely be blackmailed.

It is unavoidable and soon we will be forced into that war and I can see it becoming very big. So we must ask our self are we going to join the war now and help our friend

Kringle said: It is not unavoidable. Both the Cabinet and the Assembly seem to favour a policy of neutrality, at least unless it is strictly necessary to intervene. Personally, I favour staying out of the conflict unless we see that the Lazarene delegacy is in grave danger, which is different to say that we should outright go to war.

It is not avoidable we will have to join it soon. I do not have any evidence for this but mark my words we will get involved with this war at some point, and no matter if we have a small part or a large part in it we will be joining this war at some point.

or are we going to turn a blind eye upon our friend and see thousands of nations placed under a dictatorship and wait until we are forced into the war ?

Kringle said: I have no idea what you mean by "see thousands of nations placed under a dictatorship". You seem to think that Lazarus is somehow a frail regime with no allies against the joint might of Osiris and Balder. The truth is that both regions have numerous allies, and that this conflict won't be some David vs. Goliat encounter. If Osiris somehow did overthrow the PRL, I also doubt they would put Lazarus under a dictatorial regime, unless you have some kind of privileged access to Osiris, that is.

True both sides have a lot of allies but Osiris and Balder have a huge first advantage right now no one else is in the war. They could quite easily take Lazarus right now.

The next part. Please use your commence sense Kringle does TSP put regions just recently conquered into a democracy straight away ? No why would you ? Just let them vote in their own leaders straight away so they can plan to overthrow you and your invading army. Of course their going to be put into a bloody Dictatorship that's a no brainer. Yes after time they will most likely be placed under a democracy and then liberated but at first 3,000 nations or thousands of nation will be placed under a dictatorship.

We have the power to stop this and so we must. Lazarus is our ally and we must protect our allies. If we didn't who would want to be our ally ? I would do everything I could to prevent war but it's too late. So our choices are help Lazarus and get involved in the war or stay out altogether and watch as our ally is defeated and know that we could have saved them but we didn't we turn a blind eye on them. To me it is simple.

Also you do need to read what I say Kringle and when you do bring up a powerful attack otherwise I will simply crush it and turn your own words against you. It's how most politicians end up loosening. Now this where you use this against me and crush my attack

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No. Just, no. :facepalm:

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No. Just, no. :facepalm:

I hope that is not pointed towards me.

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Is this a nation?: The Holy Order of the Cake Crusaders? It sure seems like it to me.


Well, it's a puppet of mine. Explain how this makes it not real.

The question still stands.

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Is this a nation?: The Holy Order of the Cake Crusaders? It sure seems like it to me.


Well, it's a puppet of mine. Explain how this makes it not real.

Well smart aleck. A puppet nation can not be used for much you can't use the WA with it most people don't answer issues from it and they are used for is spying. But this logic I could be a citizen of every region. It's artificial it looks real is real but at the same time it's isn't.

Now back to the actual topic of this thread.

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