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Apad · 09-01-2014, 11:35 PM

(09-01-2014, 10:29 PM)Gustave Berr Wrote:
(09-01-2014, 08:59 PM)Sandaoguo Wrote: I really think we should wait at least until TSP and Lazarus have held talks about the war.

I agree. I think it would be a good idea to wait and talk with Lazarus before we make any declarations of our stance. I think we owe it to our allies to have talks before deciding what our action will be.

I am not sure if there is much to talk about with Lazarus. This conflict with Osiris seems to be about nothing more than displaced words and no real acts of hostility have occurred. I have to agree with Kris this conflict seems to be much about nothing and TSP should remain neutral. I also agree with Kris with regards to the wording and its reference to hostile actions taken by Lazarus.

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TAC Saxton · 09-02-2014, 01:01 AM

Exactly, if every sarcastic remark or joke made in poor taste was considered an act of hostility NS would be devoid of foreign diplomacy. Both sides are at fault and does not concern TSP in the slightest. I say leave them to do as they please. They brought this on themselves.

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***Kris Kringle*** · 09-02-2014, 01:22 AM

The concerns having been (hopefully) clarified, am I correct to assume that the Assembly wishes to attend both conferences, and further that it wishes to host the Independence Conference?

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TAC Saxton · 09-02-2014, 09:30 AM

Aye sir!
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**Belschaft** · 09-02-2014, 10:01 AM

Re-drafted;

Quote:
Assembly Resolution on the Osiris-Lazarus War

The Assembly of The Coalition of The South Pacific, cognizant of the Osiran Fraternal Order's August 28th Declaration of War against the Peoples Republic of Lazarus, hereby resolves that both parties have engaged in mutually antagonistic and hostile behavior and as such proclaims strict neutrality in this conflict.

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Punchwood · 09-02-2014, 11:16 AM

(09-01-2014, 07:02 PM)Todd McCloud Wrote: Going to have to say Bel's announcement works for me. Don't really need to get involved when nothing's really been done at this point anyway. Better to react than to join the war anyway.

And Punchwood, that's enough. Anyone who's a citizen of TSP is welcome to add their input, even if they don't agree with you.

What have I done now ? Also I know no one will care what I say but how can just leave our ally not even asking them if they want help ? If this is how we treat our allies I would hate to see how we treat our enemies.

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TAC Saxton · 09-02-2014, 11:38 AM

(09-01-2014, 11:11 AM)Belschaft Wrote: The treaty only involves us if we choose it to; mutual defense is voluntary on a as-requested and as-approved basis. Lazarus can ask us for help, but we have no duty to provide it.

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Andrew · 09-02-2014, 11:49 AM

(09-02-2014, 11:16 AM)Punchwood Wrote:
(09-01-2014, 07:02 PM)Todd McCloud Wrote: Going to have to say Bel's announcement works for me. Don't really need to get involved when nothing's really been done at this point anyway. Better to react than to join the war anyway.

And Punchwood, that's enough. Anyone who's a citizen of TSP is welcome to add their input, even if they don't agree with you.
What have I done now ? Also I know no one will care what I say but how can just leave our ally not even asking them if they want help ? If this is how we treat our allies I would hate to see how we treat our enemies.

See the thing is, yes they may be our ally. But where does TSP come in regard the Osiris-Lazarus War. Just because they are our ally doesn't mean TSP has to be dragged into a war that has nothing much to do with TSP.

And look at this from a diplomatic view. Choose Lazarus, you'll lose the relation with Osiris and possibly its allies. Choose Osiris, you'll lose Lazarus. Best stay away from the mess and avoid the situation where you have to choose between regions

***Kris Kringle*** · 09-02-2014, 11:51 AM

(09-02-2014, 11:49 AM)Andrew Wrote: Choose Lazarus, you'll lose the relation with Osiris and possibly its allies.

Just to clarify, we have already lost what little of a relationship we had with Osiris.

I have to insist on what has been said: please let the Cabinet assess the situation with Lazarus, so we can have all the necessary information before issuing a resolution.

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Andrew · 09-02-2014, 11:58 AM

(09-02-2014, 11:51 AM)Kris Kringle Wrote:
(09-02-2014, 11:49 AM)Andrew Wrote: Choose Lazarus, you'll lose the relation with Osiris and possibly its allies.

Just to clarify, we have already lost what little of a relationship we had with Osiris.

I have to insist on what has been said: please let the Cabinet assess the situation with Lazarus, so we can have all the necessary information before issuing a resolution.

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