| Citizenship and Posting |
(05-01-2014, 03:49 PM)Kris Kringle Wrote:(05-01-2014, 03:40 PM)Sir Pitt Wrote: What would be the requirements to be registered to vote? Correct. What is the "Citizenship Application" would become the "Voter Registration". Just a terminology change.
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I'd say it does nothin' but change perceptions, but I've been 'round long enough to know that perceptions can change things quite a lot.
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And thats quite the point. Citizenship has a connotation of being a right (in most societies). And nobody really wants to "apply" for a "right". Therefore, changing the wording, calling all residents citizens, and make those citizens register to vote/run, it gets rid of the negative connotation on what we now call citizenship.
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I am for this. I have said it in the past. If you have a nation in TSP you are a citizen of TSP. Period. A citizen registering to vote and "participate" in government mirrors real life. The issue still exists that as a citizen, you should be able to view and participate in the Assembly, just not vote. If I'm not a registered voter in my township, I'm still entitled to attend School Board and Township board and County and State board/congressional meetings and listen and even be heard. However, living in New Jersey, I can't walk into a municipal township meeting in New York and demand my time. I might be heard, I might not.
In forum admin terms If we just change the terminology, nothing really changes. If an attempt is made to give "citizens" access to the assembly it will be a nightmare checking every post to see if the person has a nation in TSP. We would also need a name for people who just register for the forums, yet don't have a nation in TSP. Maybe "Tourist"?
Tourists tend not to attend political gatherings. Perhaps they're the 'residents' we've always been speakin' of, like ambassadors to a nation or region are residents but not citizens or voter.
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(05-01-2014, 04:28 PM)Belschaft Wrote:(05-01-2014, 02:05 PM)Escade Wrote: This fell through last term because of discussions on wording which I hope we can move past quickly this time. I think calling all registered members citizens is a great idea and more encompassing.That doesn't work, as not everyone registered on these forums is a resident. Do you have any stats on that? How many forum users are no residents? (05-03-2014, 05:30 AM)Ditortilla Wrote:There are currently roughly 70 registered users on these forums without Citizenship. That is going to increase dramatically over time as more people register; we'll have foreign diplomats, people who have left the region/NS, general nosy parkers, etc etc.(05-01-2014, 04:28 PM)Belschaft Wrote:(05-01-2014, 02:05 PM)Escade Wrote: This fell through last term because of discussions on wording which I hope we can move past quickly this time. I think calling all registered members citizens is a great idea and more encompassing.That doesn't work, as not everyone registered on these forums is a resident. On the old 2003 forums, for reference, we have 4,266 registered members. Minister of Media, Subversion and Sandwich Making
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(05-03-2014, 12:13 PM)Belschaft Wrote: There are currently roughly 70 registered users on these forums without Citizenship. That is going to increase dramatically over time as more people register; we'll have foreign diplomats, people who have left the region/NS, general nosy parkers, etc etc. How many of the 70 have a nation resident in TSP?
(05-03-2014, 12:54 PM)Ditortilla Wrote: How many of the 70 have a nation resident in TSP? Some people don't use their nation names are their username, so unless we ask each of those 70... Former Delegate of the South Pacific
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Ah so there is a compliance issue then
However, as voting rights require an extra step including the declaration of resident nation and WA nation of the applicant, the label of citizen wouldn't necessarily impinge on security |
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