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The rest of Pacifica?
#21

So that we propose some... base ideas that I have that should help some people out.

If a full map is to added, the current TSP map will be used for claiming main nation plots as usual. Established nations/users may claim a secondary, non-puppet nation in the new lands, but may have no current interaction until further notice.
The full map should be used for historical RP, if it wishes to interact with the main TSP. Eventually I wish to see a full Pacifica alliance, but to slowly integrate these new lands, interaction must be minimal.
In order to create a plausible solution to the "next-door neighbors forgot for millenia" problem, a lot of people have to work together to create a huge historical RP. This would a massive ancient world war, that pushed many people to different parts of the globe. Maybe these "new people" are a different species of human or something that would push millions to the far reaches and never speak for thousands of years.
Another huge thread of even bigger proportions must be created to reintroduce these people back into TSP's views.

These might be a little flawed, so help me out as probably sound dumb, but I think you get the idea.
Right now I think that we have a basic idea of what the map should look like, but now is figuring if we should and how we should implement it.
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#22

We don't do sci-fi or stuff like that in our canon modern-time rp, so another human species wouldn't be plausible.
Like I suggested, if we have new landmasses, we can maybe have plots for historical rp, but in modern times there's no real connection anymore between the other continents and our main continent except maybe for imaginary trade.
As for your "Pacifica alliance" - I don't know, what you mean with that, but if it means that the South, East, West, North Pacific etc. should come together in rp....I don't think, it's possible? As far as what I have seen, rp varies bigly between the regions and so a collaboration between all the regions for the map doesn't seem to fit for me.
As for the climate:
Now that I think about it, you're right Qwert. I know of at least Seraph and Bruuma and you perhaps too using their given climate. But on the other hand I'm not sure, if I've seen Ryccia, Hammer or me caring too much about the climate. I guess, it's somewhat 50/50 between the current rp-ers, but I might be wrong too.
A REAL problem I'd see with supersizing TSP would maybe be the numbers. We currently know the area of our country, based on that we have population, based on that we got people/km², maps, military numbers etc that would all change. "It's just numbers" - Yes, it is, but those numbers maybe are much work in the end.

Anyway I think in the end a first survey on the forum on whether we should just supersize our continents or if we should add new ones would be highly appreciated.
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#23

I had a look at how much larger the continents would be if we supersized the current continents. In the below image I expanded the regional map so it now stretches from 70° north to 70° south (the reason for not expanding to 90 ° is the significant distortion that occurs near the poles). Doing so made the landmass about 56% bigger. Since the increase in area is uniform, all plots should be 56% bigger.

[Image: CxlMt94.png]

I should note that I still don't advocate supersizing... Happywide
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#24

As I have stated in previous occasions, I support fully the idea that there are indetermined other continents in the TSP worlds, that should be left deilberately vague so they can be used when needed. Since creating a shared, full background for the TSP that would explain where all the languages, religions etc. came from is a mammoth job that I don't believe can ever be done, having this external places of origin somewhere outside the TSP would be the best solution. 

Maybe we could agree on vague superpowers (political or cultural) that mirrors the one in the real world. So there would be (or have been) an Austral Empire to be the equivalent of the British one, an Iberian Empire for the Spanish one and so on.
#25

The continents must be supersized. Any lands that are created, yet are just for show are meaningless, unrealistic, and irrelevant. If we don't use the land, then what is it for?
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#26

(08-24-2018, 06:30 AM)Ryccia Wrote: The continents must be supersized. Any lands that are created, yet are just for show are meaningless, unrealistic, and irrelevant. If we don't use the land, then what is it for?

I'm not a fan of the idea of supersizing, due to the drastic change in climate for most plots. Personally, a lot of the IC information I've produced for Sedunn relies on the fact that it has a Mediterranean-type of climate.

Why would any new lands created be unrealistic?

For me it would be great just to know what's on the rest of the planet.
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#27

The rest of the planet is nothing. Only our lands exist. Only lands that can be put to popular use should be allowed to exist.
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#28

(08-24-2018, 08:54 AM)Ryccia Wrote: The rest of the planet is nothing. Only our lands exist. Only lands that can be put to popular use should be allowed to exist.

And by popular use you mean a plot system?
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#29

Yes. Our plot system is optimal. Unless we are allowed to have colonies or extended plots or whatever, new lands account for nothing but wasted space.
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#30

While I'm still the same opinion when it comes to supersizing and the climate problem (almost 50/50 distribution of rp-ers taking into account their given climate and the ones that don't care too much), I also see e.g. Bruuma's point.
What I question myself though is, why it has to be that TSP was colonised by the potential new continents and not the other way around like it was discussed a few posts before (solution of having landmasses with plots for historical rp, but in modern times they are no active entities anymore, but just get defined as a certain nation by us all we are free to trade with and whatever, but not really rp with in our canon MODERN time rp).
I still think this is the best method, because it gives the active rp-ers room for a little colonisation history or giving them the possibility to explain that the people of their nation aren't originated on the original TSP continent, if they want it. Also with the plot system and designating it for historical rp (and maybe trade rp) ONLY we give sense to the continents without putting them into the spotlight too much.
As to Ryccia: It's highly unlikely and unrealistic our rp-planet doesn't consist of any more landmasses (except we supersize TSP), so why are you so much against new landmasses that won't affect the MT rp much? Especially why are you against it, if the common sense up until now, as far as I understood it since I founded my nation in TSP, that there are landmasses but they're just not defined currently? If that's the case, why not defining them and with that ending all future possible discussions about it while also giving way to new rp possibilities? Think about it.
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